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Rebuilding a 700R4 in 4x4 for towing...
Awhile back, I posted that the Internal Reaction (Ring) Gear shattered in my 1982 GMC 2500 4x4 truck. Here are the links to my previous posts.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=217634 http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/inte...r4-103421.html I am in the process of shopping for a local transmission shop. I know very little about the what's and how's in making an automatic transmission work. I am not familiar with the terminology. I will be using the truck for towing a horse trailer and/or boat. Here is my checklist for rebuilding a 700R4 for towing. Help me learn so I will be able to understand what these shops are saying. Please point out my obvious mistakes. Please point out things that I might have left out. I plan to start with 1987 (or 88) 700R4 K-case trans from 4x4 from salvage yard. 1992 was the last year for the 700r4. 1993 was replaced by the computer controlled 4L60E. I plan to reuse 1987 Torque Convertor. My 1982 is 27spline. Late 1986 was upgraded to 30 spline. I have decided against: -- 1993 and newer 4L60E Lockup TC w/ Stock stall speed - 1600 to 1800 RPM -- Precision Industries 9.5" lockup TC I plan to install new TC lockup solenoid. I have decided against: -- Hardened 30 spline input shaft. (needed for towing or if engine is capable over 400 foot pounds torque.) I plan to replace OEM plastic thrust washer with a roller thrust bearing to reduce heat. I plan to upgrade to GM Viton seal for the input to output shaft (eliminating rear planet failure due to lack of lubrication). I have decided against: -- Hardened output shaft I plan to install new high volume 10 vane oil pump (including vanes) My 1982 is 8 vane. Late 1986 was upgraded to 10 vane. I have decided against: -- high volume 13 vane oil pump I have decided against: -- elevated pressure regulator spring -- (38) pump slide spring I plan to upgrade to Trans-Go, No Yo-Yo Pump Kit with steel front pump rings. I plan to install 0.470 main boost valve (including larger manual low/reverse boost valve) I have decided against: -- upgraded 0.500 main boost valve I have decided against: -- oversized manual low/reverse boost valve I plan to install hardened SPX Filtran, "The Beast", sun shell. I plan to install new 5 pinion rear planetary I have decided against 5 pinion front planetary I plan to install hardened reaction shell and bearing (needed for towing). I have decided against extra wide sun gear bushing I plan to reuse 28 element input sprag. I have decided against: -- 29 element input sprag (which brings 700R4 up to OEM 4L60E) I plan to install new manual low/reverse sprag. I have decided against: -- Hardened drum assembly (needed for towing) -- New aftermarket high quality band drum. ($75 to $100 depending on mfg) I plan to upgrade to Trans-Go, SysKoKal Shift Kit - K61908 by Gil Younger (Valve Body - Servo Accumulator & Governor Parts) I plan to upgrade to Trans-Go Accumulator Seals on existing Accumulator Pistons. I have decided against pinless accumulator pistons. I plan to install new plastic drive gear on the end of the Governor. I plan to install -- new OEM bushings from Federal Mogul and/or Clevite -- new OEM seal/rings from Sealed Power I plan to install new GM Turbulator low-drag steel & quick clutch release technology I plan to install new OEM 2-4 band. I have decided against: -- Borg Warner, Hi-Energy wide 2-4 band. -- Aftermarket made of Kevlar would reduce heat. -- Alto Carbon Fiber with hardened anchors I plan to install new HD 3-4 clutch pack with 6 friction plates. -- Alto, 6 brown I have decided against: -- Borg Warner, Green Hi-Energy 3-4 clutch pack with 9 friction's and steels. -- Alto, Red Eagle 3-4 clutch pack with 8 friction's and 7 full thickness (and 1 thin backing plate) Kolene steels -- Raybestos, Blue Plate Specials 304 clutch pack with 7 friction's plus 1 backing plate I plan to install new Forward, Manual Low/Reverse, Overrun, and Reverse Input Clutches -- Alto, brown I have decided against: -- Corvette 700R4 2nd Gear Servo - firmer shifts -- Oversize 35% and 50% Servo I have decided against: -- (41) Servo Valve -- hp 1-2 accumulator spring I have decided against: -- Hardened Stator Shaft -- Extra Wide Rear Stator Support Bushing -- Hardened Anchor Pin Thanks goes to "briscoe" at http://www.hotrodders.com and "rfmaster" at http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=212320 Info assembled from: http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/ http://www.700r4l60e.com/welcome.html http://www.transmissionhead.com/ http://www.berrysweb.com/700-R4-Rebuild.htm Product list: http://www.bmracing.com http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=BMM%2D70244 http://www.tciauto.com/Products/GM/gm_2004r.asp http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=TCI%2D376600 http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0002_748599_-1 http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...47219_-1_10733 http://www.transgo.com/ http://store.summitracing.com/partde...part=TRG%2D700 http://www.naparts.com/ProductModelD...ctModelId=5285 http://www.tciauto.com/Products/GM/gm_4L60E.asp http://www.spxfiltran.com/Products/L...ssion=TH700-R4 http://www.spxfiltran.com/Products/L...BrycoNum=42298 http://www.spxfiltran.com/Products/L...rycoNum=42298B http://www.naparts.com http://www.txchange.com/parts.htm http://www.delta-transparts.com http://www.wittrans.net |
several incorrect parts and date listing when upgrades were made by GM.
I would seriously consider a different 3-4 clutch pack & 2-4 band than listed. |
Rebuilding a 700R4 in 4x4 for towing
You will benefit from a 3-4 clutch kit that allows you to install more than 6 clutchs in the drum. I'm curious about the input you may have gotten, which influenced your decision about the 3-4 setup.
I am impressed with the amount of research and time you have invested in this. One other thing,the checkball capsule[in the case,servo area],we remove those capsules and plug the hole.We use a GM anchor pin cup plug. If the ball does not seat in the capsule,from any type of debris,it will be a leak, and disturbs the band release clutch apply function. This can take out the 2-4 band and or the 3-4 clutchs....It has happened to me. |
having overdrive is nice on long highway runs but after the 700 in my 89 suburban failed ....again....towing my race car, i finally converted it to a t/400. do you actually ever use overdrive while towing anyway. i seldom did.
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rebuilding a 700R4 in 4x4 for towing
Peteshotrodshop, just curious, what failed with your 700R4?
What were the symptoms, and was it clutch failure,gear train,converter? |
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