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Recomendations for a good undercoat

Thanks for having a look at my post,
I am working on a 1965 Ford Thunderbird, and wanted some sugestions for a good undercoating product. The weight of the product is not an issue, just looking for a good durable coat.
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most of the T bird crowd are a bit nuts for "factory correct" overspray and all that stuff...
regular rattle can rubberized asphalt from your local parts store is the closest appearance to what the factory "shultz gun" applied...
(local body shop may have a shultz gun, let them do it?)

by a mile, for DIY protection perfomance I do prefer Duplicolor rattle can Bedliner Spray...
tough as hell once it does cure,,if it does get scratched,,scotchbrite with soap and water and spray on more...
(it's PVC and xylene carrier so the new coat "re-wets" the old to bond it all together)
next to no overspray, keep lacquer thinner/paper towels close by for a "whoops", it does set up very quickly...
analogy???
a credit card is 10mils of PVC, 10 mils of the Duplicolor cures to become as tough and as much O2/H2O barrier!!

a true 2 part urathane bedliner spray is more better but you need a special gun and if it ever does need repair it is a nightmare to get off...
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Great Info! Thank You.
I am not looking at doing a "factory" resto to this car, more of a custom weekend driver.
I will look into the bed liner sprays.
Great info again, if anyone else has any recomendations please chime in.
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Personally i like the SPI bedliner better as I did a job with the Duplicolor and it peeled on me..the SPI kit has its own gun which is a simple schutz gun..

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Whatever bed liner coating is considered, be REAL careful about over spray as it will NOT come off with conventional solvents. I have a part of my car's belly coated with Dupli-color and after spending several hours removing most of the over spray (I just found a place that I missed ) went to their better undercoating. The fenders, splash shields and running boards have the bed liner coating though as I could do them off the car.

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Sam,
my most likely guess for the bond failure is that the paint itself wasn't totally cured???

or just not compatible with xylene at all???

who knows????

Ride,
if you do want to top coat the Duplicolor with primer, body color BC/CC, (whatever) do let it cure for about 30 days before top coating...

Dave,
agree and I'll repeat: DO keep some lacquer thinner and paper towels handy for any overspray,,,wipe it off immediately and it's easy
it is a bear to remove once it does cure (which is what you want the coating to do!)...

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Dave,
agree and I'll repeat: DO keep some lacquer thinner and paper towels handy for any overspray,,,wipe it off immediately and it's easy
it is a bear to remove once it does cure (which is what you want the coating to do!)...
......u-h-h-h-h, not really on fairly fresh paint tho wax and grease remover kinda work with a few four letter word utterances
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Dave,
thanks for the chuckle,,,it is true,,,dang stuff sticks like a beeeeetch....
xylene is the carrier "solvent" in the can (info direct from Duplicolor)
fair chance the wax and grease remover does have a teeny tiny bit of xylene in it,,,likely the slowest but safest way on extremely fresh paint....

Ride,
to have very little overspray,,,,because it sets up so darn fast (30 seconds?),,,if you stop,,, you must invert the can and clear the nozzle immediately!!!!
only once, but I did buy some with not enough pressure in the cans,,,,it will just spit out a mess with low pressure....
so:
clear the nozzle with the can upside down just enough for white spray,,,so you will have enough pressure left to be able to use the last 25% in the can...

buy a single can of the asphalt based ($6?) and bedliner ($8?) at Wally World and do some experimenting and practicing on some scrap????
you might decide you want to use the 2 part true bedliner or use all three selectively depending on the area on the car???
examples:
asphalt is the most/best flex
duplicolor has no oder so you can use it inside the car
true bedliner is the best stone chip resistant

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Underneath I used SPI Epoxy, then two part 3M Seam Sealer, then SPI Epoxy, then SPI two part Bedliner (I scuffed in between coats)-really happy with the results, and the SPI Bedliner is not the hard type of Bedliner nor the really soft-it's the in-between kind (hard to explain, but the kind I like, it is flexible) and it came out perfect (especially for a first timer with a new Gun) and it looks like a Pro did it (and I'm hardly a Pro)-don't forget to mask things off good, the stuff will go everywhere (right Dave?)-
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I am gonna shoot over to wally world tonight and grab a sample can.
Thanks, I will let you know what I think.
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Just getting back from the local Wallmart, and they were out of the Duplicolor Bed Liner Spray Cans. Well actually, there was one there on the shelf, but after a quick look at the spray cap, it had been used and returned.
Right below the shelf was the Duplicolor Roll On Bed Liner kit. This was essentially a gallon of the bed liner with a roller applicator.
The price on the Spray cans was 7.99 and the Gallon of the Roll On was 54.99
I was gonna purchase the gallon, but decided to check on the board if anyone had used this?

Also on another note... I saw the mention of using this on the inside of the cab, does it work as a sound barier??
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That Duplicolor is the stuff I used and it peeled on me so now I have a do over..Used the SPI on another project in fact that I used the SPI bedliner in the cab of a work truck and it is holding just fine..No floor mats just the bedliner and it is no noisier than it was with the floor mats..go figure..

Would I do it again..Ina heartbeat..

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SPI bedliner , works great for under the fenders of a glass car to prevent rock stars....not Steven Tyler .

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Where is SPI bedliner available or online?
I only found the manufacturers web site, and seems its only sold to installation shops..
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Where is SPI bedliner available or online?
I only found the manufacturers web site, and seems its only sold to installation shops..
Southern Polyurethane

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