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Old 10-26-2002, 10:35 PM
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What kind of filler do you use for interior plastics? I have some seat backs in my 71 cutlass that are in need of minor filling. Nothing real deep, but a few imperfections that will need to be fixed before I recolor them. There may be other pieces too, but the seat backs are the ones I can see now.

I have looked at a couple of pages on redyeing interior pieces. And I wonder how filler effects the process. Do you reccomend primer? One page I saw doesn't, but I have heard of others who do reccomend it.

I have a console that I want to use, but since it doesn't have a lid, I want to use the other console's lid. Thus I will need to die it to make it work, and to make sure it all matches I will need to paint them both. Plus lots of other little pieces so that there is not a hodgepodge of mismatched colors.

Another thing, what brands of paint/dye/interior refinishing products do you reccomend? I looked in the articles section and found one or two answers, but I want some more answers.
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you have to know what type of plastic you are dealing with. some will say on the back somewhere, but the hard non oily plastics usually can be patched with body filler or better yet the polyester or styrene glazes. the pro's use Mar Hyde dyes and repair materials, you will need to prime the repair, and regrain the piece, there are special papers available for this purpose that have the grain pressed into them. contact your supplier. clean everything with a scrub brush and enamel reducer before you begin and before you dye.
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WOW you guys and cleaning with enamel reducer. Two words old school!
They make cleaners made for plastics.
Not sure about filling the vinyl but whatever paint products you are using they should have a system for refinishing plastics, from the adhesion promoters to the primers and to the colors. Bob is right identifing the plastics is important for repairs and refinishing.

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the reason we i say to use enamel reducer is that a lot of the vinyl cleaners that are available for general use have silicone or other ingredients in them to make the vinyl shine, which is not what you want to spray dye over, it will come off in sheets. enamel reducer is available for the amatuer and usually won't get him into trouble.
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I have used that Mar Hyde dye on a set of seats before they came out nice!
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[quote]Originally posted by BOBCRMAN@aol.com:
<strong>the reason we i say to use enamel reducer is that a lot of the vinyl cleaners that are available for general use have silicone or other ingredients in them to make the vinyl shine, which is not what you want to spray dye over, it will come off in sheets. enamel reducer is available for the amatuer and usually won't get him into trouble.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If you are talking about cleaners (car care products) such as armor-all yeh no doubt
<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> When you talking about refinishing a part you should be using refinishing supplies, as in plastic cleaner for refinishing plastics, dashes, door panels, seats etc. Not as in cleaners to beautify an interior (armor-all). These cleaners I'm refering to are available to the general public. I've bought supplies before from automotive paint companies, they didn't know me and no questions where asked. None of these products will get you into trouble if you follow the Directions For Use listed on the product label. I try very hard each day to teach that one important thing, that is to read and follow the product directions.
Oh well sometimes they listen , but with me they would just rather ask how instead of read, reading, thats too easy!

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The frist thing you do is scrub the ABS plastic with soap and water to get of water contaminants then use 901 basf to get oil off.DO NOT USE ENAMEL REDUSER&gt;For your repar 3M makes platic repair.Just keep it real thin so you dont cover up your texture. DUpont has paint for this what color you wont.
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I've used "VHT" brand dyes with good results.
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