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Old 04-30-2006, 09:23 PM
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Remember HEE HAW? I'VE SEARCH THE WORLD OVER AND OVER AND OVER...

But I can't find any info, except JC Whitney, about where to buy universal patch panels"?
They are just rectangular pieces of sheetmetal with a lip bent into one end.

Is it asking too much of the internet to find a few places that sell them?

I'd like to find another source besides JC Whitney so I can see what is available. I know they are out there in cyber space somewhere.
I've searched and I get all sorts of crap about computer patch panels, etc...


Can someone please help me navigate this crazy cyber space by pointing me in the right direction?

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Old 04-30-2006, 09:52 PM
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I have to tell you something, take a piece of sheet metal, grab some duck bill vice grips and fold and edge. No measuring, no looking at your car, nothing, just put a fold on a piece of sheet metal, pick any size you want.

THAT is what you will get trying to buy a "universal" patch panel. So you might as well get to it and save yourself the shipping.

There is NO SUCH THING as a "universal" patch panel. I mean, there are "universal" fenders, it looks like a sheet of sheet metal and you give it to a guy like Randy Fergison and he makes you a fender. That is as close as you are going to get.

Post some pictures on what you have to do and we will walk you thru how to do it.

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Old 04-30-2006, 10:09 PM
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Go to Lowes. They have panels of sheetmetal for sale.
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www.eastwood.com

www.metalsdepot.com

i think eastwood has some sheet metal also check out the metalsdepot website even with shipping they are cheaper then Home depot or lowes, and if you need to make a lip order some angle iron from them and make a metal brake
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Hell yeah, I agree with brian, no need to buy something like that. I make my most of my own patch panels. I don't have a sheetmetal brake or tools like that. Something like that should be pretty easy. Just use a duck bill like brian said, or I've also pounding a little at a time a lip by holding or clamping on a bench or something with a sharp edge. If its a large piece, then you will probably have to make slits where your fold is and mig them shut once it is shaped. With a little practice, you can make all sorts of stuff with just hand tools and a welder and a little ingenuity.
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I agree, make the patches yourself or find a sheetmetal supplier that will put the bend in you're looking for. Sometimes roofing and ductwork type places can be helpfull. I hammered out three wheel opening patches for the 66 Mustang project today, 5 hours spent on hammer work, fitting, welding and grinding and they were done. Had I bought the pieces there still would have been some fitting, hammerwork, and welding and $$$. Bob
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Thanks for the replies. I'd still would like some other sources. Bending the sheet metal myself without a brake wont give me a very tight bend.
I've listed the JC Whitney page, in case some of you don't think they exist.

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If you get a couple of pieces of 1 inch angle iron, thick, say an 1/18" mininum. clamp them together on the edge of a bench with the sheet metal between them. The "back" of the angle should be at the point where you want to bend.

Using a body "spoon" (if you don't know what this is, it looks more like a "spatula" but is called a "spoon") you gently bend the sheet metal the whole length of the bend about a 1/16". Then go back and go another 1/16", then another and another until it is at the 90 degree you want. You can get a VERY tight bend with this method.

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"Universal patch panel"? Isn't that kind of like going to the building supply and buying a "universal" board?
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LOL, my brother gets asked all the time if his 22 Buick Roadster (in this edition of "The Rodders Journal" ) "Is that a kit car?" It was a running joke when we were building it how it was a "kit car", we went to the steel supply and bought a "Kit" in the form of a pile of 2x4, 1x2, 1/2x1, 2x2, 1/2x1/2, tubing and 4x4 sheets of 18 ga steel, 1x1, 1/2x1/2 angle, 1/2, 1 1/2 tube, etc. Then we simply cut all the metal up and welded it together to make a "kit car".

I mean, it was all right there, all we had to do is cut it up and weld it together.

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Honestly, not trying to be a smart*** but if someone is going to find it difficult to bend a simple lip in a flat sheet then I think he is going to find it very difficult dealing with the complex contours of most body panels.
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OK, Martinsr, I have a spoon (hf by the way).
I'll try that 1/16 at a time idea.
It just might work.
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It WILL work. The longest panel I ever did this on was six feet! Check out this "Basics" of mine on doing a door skin, sort of the same idea. "Basics of Basics" Door skins (click here)

As oldred said, really, a "universal" patch panel is not going to be one eyota (?) better than making your own.

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Marinsr, thanks. I'll try it.
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