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Old 07-20-2007, 12:23 PM
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Tech@BG...

Fantastic, you are the guy I need to be talking to! I want to use the BG Six Shooter Old School manifold and carbs on this engine...but would love to have the non-breather valve covers. I am sure this is not the first time this has come up using your manifold and I would like to know your recommended solutions.

Two problems to overcome:

1. Oil fill: You suggest using the plug above the oil filter...I will have to check my block (late model roller cam, 4 bolt), it is at the machinist's shop. I assume this is not an oil pressure port and if used the oil will only drain back into the block.

2. PCV valve/breather: I want to run a PCV valve to keep the crankcase pressures down for better ring seating, potential leaks, etc. Is there a provision on this manifold for a PCV valve? Would the vacuum source be a carb base or somewhere else on the manifold. Are these provisions cast into the manifold or would I have to machine sources? Do the carb bases have vacuum sources? I will not need the vacuum for vacuum advance due to the distributors you recommend, all MSD on your list are mechanical advance.

I was considering using this spare power steering remote reservoir for a combination oil fill/breather. It is a nice looking piece, has a drain in the bottom to normally supply the PS pump, I could weld another fitting near the top below the O-ringed cap to the vacuum source with an inline PCV valve. I could plumb the drain to the boss on the block that you mentioned. What do you think?

If this is feasable, I think it would be a functional solution and allow me to use the old timey, clean, non-vented valve covers such as Cal Customs or early Corvette to complete the "look."

Where are cusomers mounting their coils when using this manifold?

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

ALSO, I am having a problem finding a dealer that has the Old School set up. Any suggestions there? Are these manifolds being shipped now?

THANKS for your help!

Harley Monster
I wouldn't run the fill & PCV off of the same spot. You'll wind up pulling too much oil through your PCV into the engine which will hurt performance, and you'll want to pull the PCV from the top end of the engine. If it were mine I'd run the a hose off of the back of each valve cover (maybe 1/2" to 5/8") over to your resevior from your PS pump. You should be able to cleanly remote mount it at that point, and still give you the blank look on your valve covers.

There is a large vacuum fitting on the rear carburetor that can be used for PCV.

Where are you located, and who do you normally purchase your performance parts from? The Old School systems are being shipped on a regular basis.

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Thanks Tech@BG!

For clarification, are you saying to have two separate systems; 1) to run the two hoses off the back of the valve covers for the PVC valve using the vacuum source at the rear carb and 2) Use the reservoir for the oil fill.

Additional questions: 1) Will this PCV arrangement to the rear carb negatively affect the idle mixture distribution? 2) The reservoir mentioned would be for oil fill only then...should still I run THIS line down to the boss above the oil filter as you mentioned before for oil servicing?

I live in So. Calif., I use Summit a lot to avoid the sales tax and usually get next day delivery. I can not find the Old School on their website catalog, perhaps it is still too new. I have not attempted to call them, I guess I will.

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Old 07-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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Thanks Tech@BG!

For clarification, are you saying to have two separate systems; 1) to run the two hoses off the back of the valve covers for the PVC valve using the vacuum source at the rear carb and 2) Use the reservoir for the oil fill.
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1) Yes, you'd want to run two seperate systems. One for your PCV system, and a second for your filler.
2) I'd use two reservoirs one for the PCV (to couple the two hoses together), and a second to use for the filler system.

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Additional questions: 1) Will this PCV arrangement to the rear carb negatively affect the idle mixture distribution? 2) The reservoir mentioned would be for oil fill only then...should still I run THIS line down to the boss above the oil filter as you mentioned before for oil servicing?
Harley Monster
1) It won't affect it any more than it would on any other intake setup.

2) I'd use two cannisters. One for the PCV, and one for you're filler.


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I live in So. Calif., I use Summit a lot to avoid the sales tax and usually get next day delivery. I can not find the Old School on their website catalog, perhaps it is still too new. I have not attempted to call them, I guess I will.
Harley Monster
We no longer sell through Summit Racing. Is there anyone else you deal with on your performance parts?
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Thanks again Tech@BG! You have been very helpful.

I live in a rural area and there is no speed shops handy so all my performance buying is from mail order suppliers. I saw a limited number of your products in Speedway's catalog, but they don't specifically list the Old School.

What is the retail price complete for the Old School setup, I certainly don't want to pay over retail.

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Thanks again Tech@BG! You have been very helpful.

I live in a rural area and there is no speed shops handy so all my performance buying is from mail order suppliers. I saw a limited number of your products in Speedway's catalog, but they don't specifically list the Old School.

What is the retail price complete for the Old School setup, I certainly don't want to pay over retail.

Harely Monster
Being a manufacture retail sales go through our distributors. The actual retail price is set by them. Speedway should have the Old School versions in their newer catalogs.
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Tech@BG,

I called Speedway and they do not handle the Old School setup and they will not do custom orders.

I was told by one CA speed shop that all BG Six Shooters were special orders, that no one stocks them and they are made to order...is that true?

There must be a way to get one of these.

Harley Monster
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I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure on the very back of a SBC block near the dist there is unused area that could be used for a such a thing. Then you wouldn't get splashing oil or anything like that. Don't know if there's an area like this on a ford.

If I was to reroute it all I would want everything at the back kinda like how the transmission dipstick works right at the back. That way its nice and clean at the front.
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Tech@BG,

I called Speedway and they do not handle the Old School setup and they will not do custom orders.

I was told by one CA speed shop that all BG Six Shooters were special orders, that no one stocks them and they are made to order...is that true?

There must be a way to get one of these.

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oil fill for flathead

I installed an electric fuel pump to be able to use the fuel pump tower location for the oil fill tube purchased from flathead jack. then used an oil cap with breather tube that is hooked into the bottom of air cleaner for vent. it's been fine for 10 years or more.
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