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Old 03-17-2010, 02:49 AM
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Replacing inner and outer rockers

Hi. Finally going to start working on my 54 Merc rustbucket. Bought new inner and outer rocker panels but I don't know what order to put them in. Does the inner or outer get installed first? Not even sure if there is enough to weld the inner rocker to. Any and all suggestions will be welcome
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After I get the old panels out and ever thing is cleaned up I tack in the inner panel then fit the outer if it all fits well then I weld in then inner then the outer but if you dont have solid metal to weld to then you need to replace that section so you will have a good repair
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Thanks for your advice. Sounds like the common sense way to do it. I keep looking at this car and wondering if I'm getting in over my head. But the nice thing is I can't hurt it.

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What I do is start cutting the original out and installing the outer with drill screws once that is fitted I unscrewit and work farther in (the inner)I screw that together and fix the floor where it is welded to the inner rocker...when the wole assembly is installed with screws and you close the door ,check the gaps and everything is right weld the floor pieces in pull the screws out ,screw the inner in and weld that screw the outer on weld that pull all the screws and weld the holes....But the drill screws are the key,you can put it together and take it apart as many times as you need too and it'll always go back together the same way every time...
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I'm a little confused on your method but like the idea of putting stuff together with screws for trial fitting. Maybe putting the outer on first is the way to go since that is what shows. I'm not doing a 100 point resto so on the stuff that doesn't show, strength is the main thing. Got a car cover coming for the 66 Caprice so I can park it outside. Then the Merc goes inside.

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Sorry Moon.I dont even understand what I wrote......One layer at a time ,dont take it all apart at once....Start with the outer rocker and work your way in....Once everything is screwed together and everything lines up ,weld it all together one piece at a time in the reverse order.You'll be tempted to take your door off,Dont ,you'll need it on to ckeck your gaps but align it as best you can before you start....sometimes you need to replace the hinge bushings first....
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Good tip on replacing the hinge bushings, I'll have to check those. The bottom of the cowl on the drivers side moves a little if I pick up on the door when it's open. Thinking of tacking a piece of angle from the drivers side cowl to the pass side cowl. Would be best if everything is stabilized before any fitting is started. After looking at the car it looks as though the horizontal lip of the inner rocker points towards the center of the car and the floor attaches to it. I WILL get this car finished but it's really gonna test me. Would you recommend buying patch panels for the floor or making my own? I have a bead roller to put strengthening ribs in. I'm not concerned with it looking stock from underneath, just neat. The price of the panels plus the shipping starts adding up quick. I also have to make all the brackets that attach to the frame that the floor attaches to. Phew!

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Close the door first then weld a brace in, try the door again to make sure its not binding anywhere.You can always get a sheet metal shop to make some rockers if you can draw in perspective (like a blue print) and measure...Or cut a section out and give it to them.they'll make them long ,all you got to do is trim and fold the edges.but compare prices I make my own but I've been doing it for years its no big deal.I would just buy a set of rockers if I was you it'll be easier...check out peoples opinions of the company you want to use first,for the quality of the parts.
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