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Old 06-30-2009, 09:27 PM
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RESTORE VS Lucas Oil

I was wandering which oil additive was better for compression and performance restoration, RESTORE or Lucas Oil?

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Restore works good, Lucas cavitates the oil and causes foaming
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Matt,

How does the Lucas oil cavitate? How can you tell that the oil is foaming?
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Matt,

How does the Lucas oil cavitate? How can you tell that the oil is foaming?

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Tell us what your aim is. IF your just after rasing compression to get rid of it, nothing beats plain old STP for raising the oil viscosity.

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If you want a viscosity increase, yes, STP will work.

BUT - these super performance enhancing elixers, all of it regardless of make, the products of snake oil salesmen like the late Billy Mays. If you want to increase compression and/or performance, you have to rering as a minimum. Then, if you really want to change (or correct) the performance, then a rebore, new higher compression pistons, new or rebuilt heads and a decent performance camshaft.

The crap that Carrol Shelby hawks - absorbs into the metal - not a chance!!!!

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If you want a viscosity increase, yes, STP will work.

BUT - these super performance enhancing elixers, all of it regardless of make, the products of snake oil salesmen like the late Billy Mays. If you want to increase compression and/or performance, you have to rering as a minimum. Then, if you really want to change (or correct) the performance, then a rebore, new higher compression pistons, new or rebuilt heads and a decent performance camshaft.

The crap that Carrol Shelby hawks - absorbs into the metal - not a chance!!!!

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Good advice! Desperate needs for inexpensive fixes usually lead nowhere. Some cause bigger problems in the long run.
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IDK, a mix between restore in the oil, and seafoam and marvel mystery oil periodically dumped down the carb of my '65 Rambler, made the worn out engine more drivable... Marvel mystery oil actully increased the vac from 6hg to 10hg.. you could watch it on the gauge as you poured it if it was hooked up in a line, and it worked for a couple weeks, then needed redone.. restore seemed bump the compression a little.. about 5-10 PSI per cylinder ranging from 135 PSI to 150 and b4 they were as low as 120... engine was deffinetally stronger and more drivable with the additives, and 2 pumps of the pedal and touch the key and it would start every time without a choke.. it was disconnected due to a broken heat tube... I don't think there were any ill effects to the engine.. it left a blue cloud behind everywhere it went, but it never missed a beat
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restore seemed bump the compression a little.. about 5-10 PSI per cylinder ranging from 135 PSI to 150 and b4 they were as low as 120...
My guess.....that you cleaned some of the sludge off the rings, i.e. allowed them to spring back against the cylinder walls - but it wasn't long lasting as you noted. Much of those snake oil solutions are not much more then a petroleum based solvent material.
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yea, I know the rings were toast and it's possible that the seafoam did the cleaning.. the valves were also toast, and I think the mystery oil burning in the chamber cleaned them and allowed them to seal a bit better, but over the week or 2, it degraded.. each time it lasted about 500 miles or so.... Seafoam just helps to clean carbon out, and it works good... I ran both seafoam and marvel mystery oil thru my '51 Chevy ( just mixed them with the gas like they say you can ) and along with the Autolite plugs I put in, it runs much better now, even tho it ran good b4
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Restore seems to work on an engine that is worn, but not quite worn out yet. There is a point where it's worn so bad that it doesn't help. But it does seem to boost compression and reduce oil consumption slightly -- for a while. Nothing you pour in will be a permanent fix, but might get you another year of driving.

I don't buy the Lucas foaming and such either. It might do it almost straight or churned in a blender, but I've been running it for YEARS in my motorcycle. At least 50,000 miles over the last 10 years, and it still performs great. Engine oil is also trans oil, and if I don't run Lucas at every other oil change (I don't use it for every change) the trans will make a bit of noise. It was doing that before the Lucas, so the Lucas isn't the cause.
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