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Richmond 5 Speed , hard to shift

I just put a Richmond 5spd in a 65 Corvette. Install went ok and I like the gear ratios. Problem is it is really hard to shift. Much harder than the stock Muncie. I called Richmond and they are very vague about shifter effort. It does not grind on shifts, just takes allot of effort to get it in gear. I am using a 7" shifter so there is not much leverage but it is the same one I used on the Muncie.

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Might need a break-in period.

I know the Tremec TKO wants one.

After about 500 miles, my TKO really smoothed out.

But----this is apples to oranges.

2 different animals these trannys are

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gear oil?

Are you using the recommended gear oil for it? Just a thought. I did that once and it was a huge difference in effort.
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I wondered about a "break in" but the Richmond tech guy didn't mention one. I don't know.

I have tried 3 different oils. BG syncroshift synthetic GL4, then Penzoil GL4 and now Red Line MT90 GL4. The change to Penzoil petro oil helped. Not much difference with the Red Line except it shifts easier I think when cold. Really hard to tell.

Each time I have changed the oil I have a small amount of debris, like filings, on the magnetic drain plug. 1st change I thought, manufacturing debris no problem. It was there on the 2nd change as well. Now I am wondering.
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Richmond 5 Speed , hard to shift

I have an original Doug Nash 4+1 5 speed,even after all these years its still hard to shift.I've talked to a couple of other guys that had the Richmond and they also say they are hard to shift.Did you make sure the bellhousing is properly indexed ? Is the clutch properly adjusted ? Either of these can account for hard shifting.I use GM AC Delco Syncrhomesh manual trans fluid,it seems to work pretty good.
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I have an original Doug Nash 4+1 5 speed,even after all these years its still hard to shift.I've talked to a couple of other guys that had the Richmond and they also say they are hard to shift.Did you make sure the bellhousing is properly indexed ? Is the clutch properly adjusted ? Either of these can account for hard shifting.I use GM AC Delco Syncrhomesh manual trans fluid,it seems to work pretty good.
Yeah, did the bellhousing alignment. It was on the limits of .005" for centered and perpendicular on crank. The clutch is adjusted correctly and it does not drag. Have a new disc, release bearing and pilot bearing, pressure plate looked good. Had flywheel machined.

Well I hope there is nothing wrong and it loosens up a little at least. Upshifts are tolerable I guess but downshifts are difficult. No grinding just doesn't want to go in gear.

Thanks for all the input.
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Richmond 5 speed,hard to shift

Heres another thought,see if you can get in touch with Brian @S-K speed & tranny's; www.skspeed.com , he might be able to give you his opinion,he is quite knoweledgable with these tranny's.
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Heres another thought,see if you can get in touch with Brian @S-K speed & tranny's; www.skspeed.com , he might be able to give you his opinion,he is quite knoweledgable with these tranny's.
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I have talked to Brian before on something else but I have not called him on this. Good guy.

Good thought. I think I will.
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Richmond 5 speed,hard to shift

Sky65 I think you are going to find that its just a hard shifting trans.I've talked to several people that have these tranny's and they all say the same thing,but I think they are designed this way.I find that mine also downshifts harder than upshifting,I even installed a Hurst inline shifter,its better than the Competition plus.
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