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Old 01-13-2009, 12:44 PM
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at the risk of sounding like an idiot....

in all of the air bag suspension kits that i have seen for lowering cars, nobody has ever mentioned a thing about shocks. are shocks no longer used on these lowrider cars?
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Shocks are still used for a comfortable ride. My truck in my photo album is set up with rear shocks from an F150 offroad in the back to control the bouncing at low pressure in the bags, yet still gets 12" of travel. I haven't done the front shocks yet since I still have to change a few things around first.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:58 PM
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cool truck
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Bags and shocks

I have not bagged my 65 C10 yet but plan to.
Like was mentioned....if you plan to "lay frame" AND run shocks you'll need to make sure the shocks have enough shock travel to handle the full range of travel from fully up....to fully slammed.
Based on a lot of years of driving Big Trucks, and Buses with air ride suspension, I can tell you that with air ride if you have a shock going bad you WILL notice it.
Shocks make a huge difference in the problem of wheel bounce, and tire wear.
I think that is why AIR SHOCKS never became the standard because they were valved on a single line, so they would rock side to side. They also were bad about wheel hop if your ran a soft pressure.
I suggest you take the time and expense to run shocks, and make sure to run a line to all 4 wheels, and run separate switches.
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shocks are a necessity and most "lowriders" run them. However, you will find that many do not have them in the front of their trucks and this is due to the fact that they are often times very hard to put in and not limit suspension travel.
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Thats going to be my problem, but I do want to figure out how to get one in the front. Especially since mine is going to be my 3 season daily. I'm just not brave enough for winter. Like msturg said, you do have to find the right size for the application without killing either the lift or the drop.
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putting them in the front will not be too hard, i'll attach it to the rear outer edge of the lower a arm and build an outrigger style mount for the top off of the frame. done!!
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shocks are a necessity and most "lowriders" run them. However, you will find that many do not have them in the front of their trucks and this is due to the fact that they are often times very hard to put in and not limit suspension travel.

It is not the travel although that is in play ...... shocks inhibit the bounce of the front ..... as designed BTW

I think kangaroo cars are right on the same street as rat rods just odd ........does not compute, as a used car salesman would say there is a butt for every seat.

I am just very peculiar where mine sits.

There is an advantage to the slowriders over the rats !..................................a better quality of parts fall off ...
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It is not the travel although that is in play ...... shocks inhibit the bounce of the front ..... as designed BTW

I think kangaroo cars are right on the same street as rat rods just odd ........does not compute, as a used car salesman would say there is a butt for every seat.

I am just very peculiar where mine sits.

There is an advantage to the slowriders over the rats !..................................a better quality of parts fall off ...
maybe you misunderstood what i'm saying about limiting travel. It's hard to find a shock that is small enough to fit in between the gap of the frame and the upper control arm while still getting 12+ inches of suspension travel

to go from something like this


to this


now granted, with that size wheel combo I didn't need that much lift in the front to clear the wheels, but when I did have shocks on it, it would lift enough to turn but I was maxing out the shocks, so it rode like I was sitting on bumpstops.
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putting them in the front will not be too hard, i'll attach it to the rear outer edge of the lower a arm and build an outrigger style mount for the top off of the frame. done!!

Don't forget to check your turning radius, if the shocks are too close to the outside of your control arm, you won't be able to turn the wheels as much. Just something to think about before you start.

And thats a nice looking Ranger there. Glad to see I'm not alone here.
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Don't forget to check your turning radius, if the shocks are too close to the outside of your control arm, you won't be able to turn the wheels as much. Just something to think about before you start.

And thats a nice looking Ranger there. Glad to see I'm not alone here.
good point, if need be i could always lay the shocks horizontally across the front crossmember and use some levers of some sort. that may look pretty cool
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