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Old 03-10-2008, 07:33 AM
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roached my cam

well it was a nice day to work on my car yesterday so i pulled off my intake to see if my lifter's was any good .well a week or two ago i put a thread on winter bug and it was about collapsed lifter's .well i was not listening very good to you guy's and i messed up and started tightening the rocker arm's down hoping it would stop the ticking .well what i found was three lifter's was rounded off and so is the cam .so i guess i learned a good lesson ."don't just start ripping thing's apart before you really know what you are doing first" like "tightening down stuff" so now I'm going to call summit up today and buy me a new 292 comp cam at $179.99 .well that's my sad story thanks for reading
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roached my cam

hope you get her thumping but you better get that oil changed
stick you a magnet to a rubber hose and fish out what you can .
i've used a magnet and dragged it on bottom of pan toward drain hole and than used one of them pocket antenna ones to fish it out .
or you could drop the pan , but that not fun .
on the filter you can silicone glue a small speaker magnet at bottom .change it sooner and than 3000 mile oil change .
does your oil filter plate still have the bypass ?
delete it with a non-bypass mount or take it and run a pipe tap and plug it with a allen short plug like comes in your freeze plug kit's .
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yea i was thinking about all the metal at the bottom of my oil pan .I'm going to try what you said and try to drag it out with a magnet and see what happens. and i just got a standard oil filter.and yea i really don't what to drop the pan .hopefully it's not that bad
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I'm sorry to say..... But, typically when a cam goes flat it eats the engine bearings.

What cam (make and model) went flat ???

Make sure to use an EOS additive when you break in the new cam.

The old style Rotella T diesel engine oil (not the new formulation) would also help

You could also try breaking in the cam with only the outer springs. More work but there is a much better chance for a "good" cam break in.

What springs pressures are you using now??

What engine oil have you been using??
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I'm sorry to say..... But, typically when a cam goes flat it eats the engine bearings.

What cam (make and model) went flat ???

Make sure to use an EOS additive when you break in the new cam.

The old style Rotella T diesel engine oil (not the new formulation) would also help

You could also try breaking in the cam with only the outer springs. More work but there is a much better chance for a "good" cam break in.

What springs pressures are you using now??

What engine oil have you been using??
well i pray to god it did not mess up my engine bearings.
the cam is a comp cam grind number's are cs 292h-10
gross valve lift in..501 ex..501
.006 tappet 292
duration @ .050
lobe separation 110.0

spring's are
seat pressure 110 lbs.@1.750"
open pressure 325 lbs.@1.200"
coil bind 1.150"
free height 2.030"
nomial lift .490"
max lift .550
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so, are you saying the cam that went flat is a compcam 292h?

what engine oil have you been using?
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roached my cam

there's always a down side , but if it didn't get past the filter your ok .
but it has to go through your oil pump first and that will hurt .
i keep a d to my oil pans just for in case's like your's .
them oil plug ones don't draw enough to them .
keep a eye on your oil gage and if it fl-udder's up and down when your at a constant rpm , shut her down and pull the pan and clean out and replace the pump .
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well i was using 30w oil .and then i changed the oil a week ago with 5 30w with marvel mestray oil .and i don't think it went totally flat but it's pretty close
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there's always a down side , but if it didn't get past the filter your ok .
but it has to go through your oil pump first and that will hurt .
i keep a d to my oil pans just for in case's like your's .
them oil plug ones don't draw enough to them .
keep a eye on your oil gage and if it fl-udder's up and down when your at a constant rpm , shut her down and pull the pan and clean out and replace the pump .
well before i took it apart i started the motor and saw metallic looking oil coming out of the rocker arm's .so i don't know what I'm going to do i guess i can put the cam in and hope for the best
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ok. 30W. what brand of oil?


did a 292H go flat in your engine?
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well i think it was castral .and yea the 292h cam is the one i have in it now or had!!
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If you saw "metallic looking oil" the engine is toast.
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If you saw "metallic looking oil" the engine is toast.
it looked like oil when you first break in a motor .there are metal shaving in the valley .it looked like it just happened .i don't know if it went all throw the motor .see now I'm worried if i have to rebuild the motor
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should use an oil with high zinc levels. do some research.

rotella t diesel engine oil is a good one to use. Use the old style (blue label), not the "new formulation" rotella T. compcam recommends rotella t.

oil formulations have changed over the years due to new emission standards and they don't protect flat tappet cams likes they once did. If you want to run a high performance flat tappet cam with strong valve springs then you need to pay extra close attention to what engine oil you put in. You need high levels of anti-wear additives, such as zinc.

I also think you could get by with less spring pressure. 110lb on the seat is ok but you could easily drop 30 pounds over the nose. Have you checked the spring install height and actually measured the springs? When building a high performance engine, everything must be checked, otherwise it is pure luck.
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well i thank every body for your input i guess i have a lot of thinking to do well guess i'm going to hope for the best thanks again for all your help
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