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Old 01-28-2009, 09:47 AM
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does it have finger hole pull up for it to go in first or second
if so you have a v-gate shifter on it .
trans of this type are good , but will tear up with that big block you made into a monster .
them cast iron Saginaw's hold up better under punishment , but you be better off with selling it .
i see them go for $1000 and up rebuilt , at swap meets without shifters .
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I woulnd't sell it for $1000.00, I see them selling for 1500 to 1800 pretty easy in my area. To the right guy it will bring good money. I would put the M22 against the Sag trans any day.
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I woulnd't sell it for $1000.00, I see them selling for 1500 to 1800 pretty easy in my area. To the right guy it will bring good money. I would put the M22 against the Sag trans any day.

and you'll end up with a lot of busted housings too !
i know from the pile i have .
my friend bought a m-22 and it was all new , lasted three weeks at the strip .
bought another to bust it in three races .
he got a saginaw out of a vega 4 banger ,and been hammering for 4 years now , still going strong .

yea i like them m22's and muncie's , for normal driving stock motors .
i busted 8 of them in my 57 ,put a saginaw in it and only problem now is the blasted shifter .
i miss my V gate .
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. The trans was ordered with this inline option and has had straight cut gears installed so down shifting isnt possible but clutchless shifts are. I have the original gears also.
It's been a while, but I thought that they all had straight cut gears in them??
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It's been a while, but I thought that they all had straight cut gears in them??
Contrary to popular belief the M22 did not have straight cut gears. The M20's, and M21's had the 30 degree helix angle. The M22 gear set angle is about half the angle of the M20, M21 gears.

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There are only two gear sets available for Muncies that I know of. They are for stock M20, and M21. The other set is for the M22 and both are manufactured offshore (Italy I think). They are exact duplicates of the OEM gear sets.

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Sounds like somebody crash-boxed it.
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Thanks for the input jimfulco, could you explain more please about "crashbox" and what this means. The guy I got it from explained it to me as straighter cut gears so you dont have to clutch it. Deffinately would like to hear some more from you, is this a good thing. He did this for drag use only but was afraid of breaking it and likes me so i ended up with it. thanks again
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Look here: www.libertysgears.com and compare with the inside of yours. Maybe some similar parts?
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thanks will check it out
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...The guy I got it from explained it to me as straighter cut gears so you dont have to clutch it. ...
Not the correct reasoning, has nothing at all to do with shifting. The lower the helix angle, the smaller the parasitic losses (better power transmission). The trade-off being more noise. MFG's didn't want the consumers to complain, so they sacrifice some power for some quiet by using a high helix...

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Crash boxing was grinding off every other synchro tooth making it easier for the slider to pass through it to engage the next gear set. Hit it fast and hard you could shift without the clutch, pretty hard on them.
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