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Old 03-03-2003, 01:38 PM
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willys36, you really know how to make a guy feel good about spending $200 on a new manifold. <chuckle>

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The Air Gap manifold kinda' gives an SBC a different look but as far as performance goes, I don't know - I won't buy one simply for looks alone. Since I've taken my "Baseball Glove" back where I got it, I'll wait till I hear something positive from the troops about them here, how's that.... since I've already squandered enough greenbacks on the ride to burn a wet dog.

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2601 = Performer Air Gap (RPM range is idle to 5500)
7501 = Performer RPM Air Gap (what i have...RPM range 1500-6500)
A performer RPM is probably like 1" or so taller than a regular performer.

Like i said before.until you posted the 2601 part number I wasn't aware that eldelbrock made a Performer air gap.

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2601 = Performer Air Gap (RPM range is idle to 5500)
7501 = Performer RPM Air Gap (what i have...RPM range 1500-6500)
A performer RPM is probably like 1" or so taller than a regular performer.

Like i said before.until you posted the 2601 part number I wasn't aware that eldelbrock made a Performer air gap.

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Old 03-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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I see what your saying.. It sounds like I need to research this thing a little better before I get any money out. I might just stay with the old Performer RPM. The combination I have now, pulls hard up to 5800 with an out-of-the-box 670 Street Avenger, HEI dist. and 1-5/8" Flowtech ceramic coated blockhuggers. My power band limitations are most likly due to limited distributor advance, rather then carburation and manifold flow. I've got a new 750 double pumper I'll try on the old manifold before I spring for a new Air Gap.

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not that you guys want to hear my two cents as a newbie and all, but i wanted to try the performer rpm air gap. with vortech heads my price before shipping was 259.00. so i decided to try the power plus manifold. when i got it i matched it to a buddy of mines air gap. they are absolutely identical with the exception of not saying edelbrock. they fit both early center bolt and all older small block heads. i had a performer rpm and the difference is very noticable. i paid 162.00 and that included shipping for another 20.00 or so i could have went fully polished. it has the 4 corner cooling and cast in nitrous bosses. and hasnt leaked a drop.
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I just received my new RPM Air Gap and it was an insult to have "Made in America" on it. I have seen parts from third world countries look better. (visible seams, flash) I do believe it is the best dual plane manifold avalible though.

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Old 03-03-2003, 05:41 PM
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I don't know like i said before I guess they took more pride in the finish of the Air Gaps when they first introduced them.
Here's a picture of the Air gap on My Camaro
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S10, It really looks like I'd be loosing ground to go with the 2601. I think the RPM AG will work on my motor but I can live without all those extra one-manifold-fits-all bosses... I think my money would be better spent on a new dist. and 6AL box. I hope they come with long enough leads to go under the dash with 'em, I don't like all the cluter they create. My firewall is busy enough.
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Old 03-04-2003, 07:34 PM
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twistedtrik - who makes the Power Plus?
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Just my 2 cents on the power plus products, a customer brought me one for his car, the ports were a disaster, they looked as if they had been ground out with a hand grinder, it had "made in china" stamped on it in several places. needless to say, i didn`t like it much. as far as the MSD goes, and you don`t want any clutter on your firewall, maybe the Pertronix Flame Thrower module and coil for HEI will work for you as well as it does for me. they cost around $80 for both, and there matched to work together as a team, it works up to 7500 RPM`s. I`ve had no problem from mine, and nobody`s the wiser you have one since the stock HEI cover bolts right back on. just my 2 cents. Good Luck and Good Roddin to ya Prime.
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the power plus is made by professional products. true the ports were a little rough but nothing a dremel cant take care of. and yes they do say made in china but as far as that goes 90% of the replacement parts we buy are made in china. and if that part really bothers you its printed facing into the lifter valley so nobody is going to see it anyways. so if anybody is still interested in them the best price is probably through speedway motors.
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Old 03-05-2003, 04:36 PM
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DV, Man I don't need that! I think I'll stick with Vic's outfit or maybe, Weiand, did I spell that right? I might just fire him off an email about the flaws I saw in the AG at the Roadster Show.
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first, from what i've read, if i were in the market for a new intake for a street racer it would be the air gap. second, i didnt know they made a performer air gap either. and, i think a splash guard would be just as good with an rpm, (which i am currently running, allbeit regrettably because of my weight problem-i'm a fatso) i am actually looking more towards the new low-end (rpm-wise, and i dont mean model of intake there, i mean power band) or even putting a STOCK intake on for low end torque. it pisses me off that a co like edel will slack off on QC. tenth, i dont want anything that says made in china on any of my cars. period. hell, it doesnt even have to say it as long as i know where it came from, 11th i would plan on using a die grinder on whatever i buy.
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:16 PM
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twistedtrik - I stopped by Baxter's auto parts tonight and checked out the Power Plus version of the Air Gap. I gotta say there is little to NO difference! That's kinda scary considering Edelbrock must have a patent on the design. If they don't sue the guys who make these pseudo AG's real soon for patent infringment, my guess is they make an aftermarket profit from them. What's REALLY scary is the quality of the Power Plus product really isn't all that bad.

You can't buy nothin' made in the states anymore.

Thanks for the info. - Primemover
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