Rust removal...........the miracle of molasses! - Page 2 - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Body - Exterior
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 09-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: '27 roadster quarter panels from scratch
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, California
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
I learned about it over on the HAMB. I'll try to answer some of the questions posed here...................

Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer69
how long will that mix last or take off rust?
I derusted a bunch of parts afterwards. Should last anywhere from several months to a year. I heard of a guy doing 3-4 car bodies before he had to change out the molasses.

Quote:
Originally Posted by balder
Great Dip! was is sugar cane molasses, or sugar beet molasses?
Feed grade molasses for horses, etc. Bought at a local feed store.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoGear
How do you dispose of the used 'bath-water'?
I simply unscrewed the back panel of the box and let it drain out. It was so diluted, it didn't make much of a mess. It makes an awesome fertilizer! Because of that it's hard to find in quantity during the months of August & September. It's a very sought after commodity for large scale pot growing operations!

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 05:49 AM
deadbodyman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: Stripping paint Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: augusta,ga.
Age: 54
Posts: 6,099
Wiki Edits: 11

Thanks: 25
Thanked 447 Times in 376 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stick895
If you used it to make rum it'd really put lead in your pencil!
Ooh ,Someone say rum???? And the Coke has the phosphoric acid in it but this way seems much easier than the way I do it ...I can sit in the lounge chair drinking my rum and coke and just watch ....maybe get one of those big umbrellas so I dont get sunburned....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 06:54 AM
Member
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Alabama
Posts: 181
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Fool
Try these search terms - chelation rust removal

here is the link: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...n+rust+removal

how it works: http://www.westerhuis-restauratie.nl...ing-agents.pdf
Thanks for the links. Very interesting read, since I had never heard of this process.

Jim
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2012, 09:35 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ramona, calif.
Posts: 305
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I made up a small sample of molasses and water (9 to 1) as an experiment with molasses rust removal. I believe that I used unsulphated. I put a peice of rusty sheet metal in for a week and really did not get great results. Do I need to give it more time or do I need sulphated molasses? I provided a before and after pic........Steve
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	rust1.jpg
Views:	261
Size:	225.5 KB
ID:	62929   Click image for larger version

Name:	rust.jpg
Views:	294
Size:	259.2 KB
ID:	62930  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2012, 11:39 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: '27 roadster quarter panels from scratch
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, California
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
I don't know what the chemical makeup of my molasses was. I just know it was 'feed grade' and I bought it at a commercial livestock feed store. I left my stuff in the mix for 2 weeks and it completely removed 80 years of severe rust.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2012, 09:15 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ramona, calif.
Posts: 305
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I might try and get some sulphated type and give it a try. This is just a little experimental peice to get it figured out
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2012, 06:05 PM
Shelby1's Avatar
Steel Dreams
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lillian,AL
Age: 69
Posts: 317
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
This thread knocked over one of "my" memory banks and I remember his old mechanic that I use to hang around his shop ( mainly because I was sweet on his daughter ) and he swore that molasses would clean the rust and all of the other gunk out of engine blocks. I remember one time that I was at his shop and he was putting a flat head Ford tractor block in to a 55 gal drum and had a bunch of molasses in the old style gas cans. I asked what he was doing and he proceeded to tell me that it would remove the rust and stuff out of the block and that it was better and cheaper than having it hot tanked. Well this man was well known for imbibing adult beverages and I wrote it off to him being potted and never thought to ask how long it would take or any thing else for that matter. So maybe there was something to what he was doing....any one else heard of cleaning a block like this.
Kenny
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 02-16-2012, 12:04 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: My Last Hot Rod
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 264
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 15
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Well

Have you ever seen a Cow that ate Molasses get a Rusty Stomach??? There yah go
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:39 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ramona, calif.
Posts: 305
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I was able to get the molasses to work. I guess it just takes time. Some of the metal took 2+ weeks. I noticed on some of it the metal actually started turning black. Anybody seen this before?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	metal 2.jpg
Views:	373
Size:	251.7 KB
ID:	64435   Click image for larger version

Name:	M2.jpg
Views:	442
Size:	463.3 KB
ID:	64436  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:51 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lake Charles, La
Age: 27
Posts: 150
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Looks like some kind of chemical reaction, try to buff it out with a scotch brite wheel on a die grinder.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 06:36 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: cherry hill NJ
Posts: 305
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
hey after your done just lift the lid add a small fan put up a tree stand instant bear bait cattle molasses and horse grain and of course donuts is what we used in maine
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 06:37 PM
Old Fool's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: spokane,wa.
Posts: 1,347
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 8
Thanked 40 Times in 34 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by benchracer1
I was able to get the molasses to work. I guess it just takes time. Some of the metal took 2+ weeks. I noticed on some of it the metal actually started turning black. Anybody seen this before?
FYI: the molasses should be sulphated such as animal feed uses, not the stuff in your wife's kitchen cabinet .

The black may be iron oxide, it is the same coating that many bolts on a vehicle have. It is a protectant, but not a very good one. If so, Just clean the piece properly and coat with epoxy. No need to worry about the black parts, it will hold paint just as well as the rest of the part.

I read on the web somewhere a while back when I was first researching chelation I read where a guy suggested finding a used chest type freezer and using it as a soak tank for chelation soaking.

Just build a rack in the bottom to support your items and not have them poke holes in the interior.

When I get to that point on my current project there will be an old chest type freezer along side the shop.
I am going to try and find one with a built in drain valve.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 08:29 PM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,118
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,292
Thanked 1,138 Times in 1,008 Posts
Very interesting read (and look), thanks for posting. I am not big on "home remedies" but damn that's intresting.

And because I am an anal nut job I have to say that isn't a 27, it's a 26. At least the doors are.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:31 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ramona, calif.
Posts: 305
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Ive been using some stuff from the local supermarket simply because I havent found any feed stores that sell the stuff. I think it works well enough to warrant finding feed grade in bulk and going to the next step......Steve
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2012, 08:54 PM
hp246's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 298
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 12
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by benchracer1
Ive been using some stuff from the local supermarket simply because I havent found any feed stores that sell the stuff. I think it works well enough to warrant finding feed grade in bulk and going to the next step......Steve
might want to try Tractor Supply Company. They have a website and if you can't find one near you, they will ship.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Body - Exterior posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electronic miracle rust cure? ScotY Body - Exterior 8 11-11-2008 03:04 PM
Rust Removal sgo70 Body - Exterior 3 08-28-2008 04:45 PM
Rust removal with molasses - it works! baddbob Body - Exterior 2 01-22-2006 09:57 AM
rust removal pillsbery Body - Exterior 1 06-27-2004 02:02 PM
Rust removal? bowtieorbust Body - Exterior 7 09-14-2003 06:16 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.