[evintho]

I learned about it over on the HAMB. I'll try to answer some of the questions posed here...................

Originally Posted by geezer69

how long will that mix last or take off rust?

I derusted a bunch of parts afterwards. Should last anywhere from several months to a year. I heard of a guy doing 3-4 car bodies before he had to change out the molasses.

Originally Posted by balder

Great Dip! was is sugar cane molasses, or sugar beet molasses?

Feed grade molasses for horses, etc. Bought at a local feed store.

Originally Posted by AutoGear

How do you dispose of the used 'bath-water'?

I simply unscrewed the back panel of the box and let it drain out. It was so diluted, it didn't make much of a mess. It makes an awesome fertilizer! Because of that it's hard to find in quantity during the months of August & September. It's a very sought after commodity for large scale pot growing operations!

[deadbodyman]

Originally Posted by Stick895

If you used it to make rum it'd really put lead in your pencil!

Ooh ,Someone say rum???? And the Coke has the phosphoric acid in it but this way seems much easier than the way I do it ...I can sit in the lounge chair drinking my rum and coke and just watch ....maybe get one of those big umbrellas so I dont get sunburned....

[fordSR]

Originally Posted by Old Fool

Try these search terms - chelation rust removal

here is the link: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...n+rust+removal

how it works: http://www.westerhuis-restauratie.nl...ing-agents.pdf

Thanks for the links. Very interesting read, since I had never heard of this process.

Jim

[benchracer1]

I made up a small sample of molasses and water (9 to 1) as an experiment with molasses rust removal. I believe that I used unsulphated. I put a peice of rusty sheet metal in for a week and really did not get great results. Do I need to give it more time or do I need sulphated molasses? I provided a before and after pic........Steve

[evintho]

I don't know what the chemical makeup of my molasses was. I just know it was 'feed grade' and I bought it at a commercial livestock feed store. I left my stuff in the mix for 2 weeks and it completely removed 80 years of severe rust.

[benchracer1]

I might try and get some sulphated type and give it a try. This is just a little experimental peice to get it figured out

[Shelby1]

This thread knocked over one of "my" memory banks and I remember his old mechanic that I use to hang around his shop ( mainly because I was sweet on his daughter ) and he swore that molasses would clean the rust and all of the other gunk out of engine blocks. I remember one time that I was at his shop and he was putting a flat head Ford tractor block in to a 55 gal drum and had a bunch of molasses in the old style gas cans. I asked what he was doing and he proceeded to tell me that it would remove the rust and stuff out of the block and that it was better and cheaper than having it hot tanked. Well this man was well known for imbibing adult beverages and I wrote it off to him being potted and never thought to ask how long it would take or any thing else for that matter. So maybe there was something to what he was doing....any one else heard of cleaning a block like this.
Kenny

[rsfyj]

Have you ever seen a Cow that ate Molasses get a Rusty Stomach??? There yah go

[benchracer1]

I was able to get the molasses to work. I guess it just takes time. Some of the metal took 2+ weeks. I noticed on some of it the metal actually started turning black. Anybody seen this before?

[RotorHead]

Looks like some kind of chemical reaction, try to buff it out with a scotch brite wheel on a die grinder.

[wayneooo]

hey after your done just lift the lid add a small fan put up a tree stand instant bear bait cattle molasses and horse grain and of course donuts is what we used in maine

[Old Fool]

Originally Posted by benchracer1

I was able to get the molasses to work. I guess it just takes time. Some of the metal took 2+ weeks. I noticed on some of it the metal actually started turning black. Anybody seen this before?

FYI: the molasses should be sulphated such as animal feed uses, not the stuff in your wife's kitchen cabinet .

The black may be iron oxide, it is the same coating that many bolts on a vehicle have. It is a protectant, but not a very good one. If so, Just clean the piece properly and coat with epoxy. No need to worry about the black parts, it will hold paint just as well as the rest of the part.

I read on the web somewhere a while back when I was first researching chelation I read where a guy suggested finding a used chest type freezer and using it as a soak tank for chelation soaking.

Just build a rack in the bottom to support your items and not have them poke holes in the interior.

When I get to that point on my current project there will be an old chest type freezer along side the shop.
I am going to try and find one with a built in drain valve.

[MARTINSR]

Very interesting read (and look), thanks for posting. I am not big on "home remedies" but damn that's intresting.

And because I am an anal nut job I have to say that isn't a 27, it's a 26. At least the doors are.

Brian

[benchracer1]

Ive been using some stuff from the local supermarket simply because I havent found any feed stores that sell the stuff. I think it works well enough to warrant finding feed grade in bulk and going to the next step......Steve

[hp246]

Originally Posted by benchracer1

Ive been using some stuff from the local supermarket simply because I havent found any feed stores that sell the stuff. I think it works well enough to warrant finding feed grade in bulk and going to the next step......Steve

might want to try Tractor Supply Company. They have a website and if you can't find one near you, they will ship.