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Old 04-04-2005, 02:55 PM
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Rust Repairs?

I bought a 72' Chevelle SS from a dealership that was supposedly off-frame restoration.
Anyways, I'm noticing chipped paint and rust in some places.
Now, I've talked to a couple of people and they've said even if I do get it taken care of it will come back.
Is there any way I can completely make this car rust free?
Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a professional do this?
That would include doing the rust and repainting it.

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Of course surface rust can be stopped, but there is no way we can help you without seeing the car.

Take it to a couple of good body shops and see what they say.
keep an open mind as they may tell you this was a used car special and that is not uncommon with a dealership. If thats the case plan on spending big bucks or sell.

You might ask the dealer who painted the car and take it back there but if he had a cheap job done he will protect the identity of the shop.

A footnote, body off restorations start at about $30-40,000 and way up from there, so with what you paid for the car that may give you a clue as to whats going on. If you got a deal for $10,000??????

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I bought a 72' Chevelle SS from a dealership that was supposedly off-frame restoration.
Anyways, I'm noticing chipped paint and rust in some places.
Now, I've talked to a couple of people and they've said even if I do get it taken care of it will come back.
1. Is there any way I can completely make this car rust free?
2. Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a professional do this?
That would include doing the rust and repainting it.

Thanks for reading.

Peace be with you,
Trippy Hippy
1. Yes, if it is done properly.

2. No way to answer this without knowing the extents of the rust.
If the rust is on the surface of the steel, this would be the best scenario.
If the rust is from the inside coming out, then this means at least welding in a patch panel or panel replacement. And, if the latter is what is happening, then you may have many more rust problems that you can't see.

Get a knowledgeable person to look at this car.

Roger
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:48 PM
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Pictures

First off, thanks for replying.

I bought this car from what I thought was a "reliable" dealership.
They said they had been in business for 10 years and so I thought maybe they were legiment.
They said it was an off frame restoration, the total price of the car was 32k. I've only had it for 6 months and all of these "problems" are starting to happen, but I was fully aware things could go wrong, seeing how old the car is.
The guy ASSURED me I could drive this car everyday. (Thats a WHOLE nother story)

Anyways, I have a link to the pics I took earlier.
I couldn't upload them all so I just uploaded to my geocities account.

http://www.geocities.com/fusion_hippie/

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Did they tell you how long ago the restoration was supposedly done?
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When it come's to purchasing a "classic" car of ANY sort. BEFORE you buy into their story,ask for DOCUMENTATION of the FACTS as to who,what where the work was preformed.
If they don't have the info,expect the worst.Because it usually is unfortunately.
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I am no pro painter, but from your photos it looks like most of it is surface rust which I would assume could be fixed without having to repaint the whole car... Maybe just a little sanding and touch up... But, again I am not a pro, so take it for what it's worth...

Needless to say if that happened to a car I spent $32k on, I'd be pretty upset myself.

I think I would try to find out who did the restoration/paint job. Then I would check around to get a couple of price quotes for the repairs. I would try to contact the painter and see if they are willing to back their work and repair it for free. If they try to get out of it I might even give the hint that I attend a lot of car gatherings (even if I didn't) and could sway a lot of prospective customers in a direction either for or against their services based on how I was treated...

I know your beef is probably more with the dealership at this point, but after 6 months I have to assume they will tell you to pound sand...
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Hello again,
Once again, thanks for the comments. Well, when I bought the car I do admit it was a haste decision. I've always loved classic cars and when I saw this one I pretty much jumped all over the deal. I took a test run, but for some reason they wouldn't allow me to test drive it. Anyways, all I have is the Bill Of Sale. Mileage is exempt, but they didn't write down how long the restoration took. I'm still AWAITING the title, believe it or not, that's a whole nother story though.
Anyways, did you guys look at the pictures?
Any hope in getting it rust free?

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Deck lid, that bubble is rust coming through from underside. In other words you have a pinhole going through the metal.

Fenders I can't see nothing.?????????????????

Front picture is nothing more than a chip from poor alignment-no big deal.

Hood, is either crappy assembly or poor tape job- no big deal.

Trunk floors need sand basting and start over, it was a cover up job.

Overall don't look to bad.
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Well, I took a picture of the fender because I couldn't understand why it looks like the paint is falling off? Chipped or scratched.
How much do you think it would cost?
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Well, I took a picture of the fender because I couldn't understand why it looks like the paint is falling off? Chipped or scratched.
How much do you think it would cost?

Could not Begin to guess.
Best thing to do is take to a few body shops and let them tell you what needs to be done and the cost. Don't bother with the dealerships as it not their cup of tea.

Can never write an estimate from a picture.
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Thanks for taking the time to help me out though.
I really appreciate it =)
I'll get some estimates like you suggested.

Thanks again ---

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Just wanted to add that the trunk rust could have been caused by a leaking rear window. If there has previously been extensive work in that area it would be darned important that it would have been done correctly.
Have the estimator check this out closely. (Someone who knows these old cars would know to do this without being asked.)
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Thank you very much
I really appreciate it.

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I noticed the different screws in the hood pin plate. With lack of attention to detail during a full off resto I would definately take it to a professional to have it thoroughly looked over inside and out. In fact I wouldn't have bought it in the first place, at least at that price. I figure if they don't bother to hide something like that what else did they skimp on?
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