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Rustoleum Oil vs Duplicolor Lacquer

Ok guys if there were only those 2 paint left in the world which would you paint, with a spray gun ofcourse....

Rustoleum Oil base Enamel


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Duplicolor Lacquer

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IF those were the ONLY 2 paints in the world, I would...............
CHANGE CAREERS!
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Is that Dulpicolor the "name brand"you were talking about in your other post? That is the JUNKIEST of the JUNK!!!
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Is that Dulpicolor the "name brand"you were talking about in your other post? That is the JUNKIEST of the JUNK!!!
NO....actualy the best of the best poly we got here is Dupont Nason... Sherwin williams is the on selling the Lacquer with lead on it, but its only for the latin american countries...
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See Nason is a lower line urethane here in the states. You can buy a single stage black kit with a gallon of paint, pint of activator(8:1:2 mix) and gallon or reducer for @$130 where I'm at. I think Nason clear is @$120 + activator here.
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See Nason is a lower line urethane here in the states. You can buy a single stage black kit with a gallon of paint, pint of activator(8:1:2 mix) and gallon or reducer for @$130 where I'm at. I think Nason clear is @$120 + activator here.
thats not bad, but here the price is just abit more, the No Name one cost about 50 dollars
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Duplicolor is pre-reduced( over reduced so they can sell more), doesn't cover worth a crap. So you have to buy twice as much to cover. Just bottom of the barrel stuff. It is marketed towards the "dont know any better do-it-yourselfers". Absolute crap. And rustoleum is lawn furniture paint. and not very good at that. It will get you beat up in the states for using it.
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[QUOTE=waterdude]NO....actualy the best of the best poly we got here is Dupont Nason... Sherwin williams is the on selling the Lacquer with lead on it, but its only for the latin american countries... [/QUOTE

You could try the Rustoleum, 1st what are you painting?
Mix ratio for spraying Rusto type enamel paints, is 8 parts paint, 4 parts automotive enamel reducer (speed depending on conditions), and 1 part gloss Evercoat DQI hardener.
This ratio is an approx only as Rustoleum does not have any particular mix ratio for spraying.
If uisng a gravity feed HVLP sparygun witha 1.4 mm tip, do test patterns, and see whats happening, and tune the gun to best your knowledge and experience.
Prep car with all stages, including degreaser/wax remover wiped just before painting.
Shoot on your first coat, not too heavy let this flash about 30 minutes or whatever is needed at 70 to 75 f, then lay on another coat for good coverage. I have painted things with this stuff and have let things dry overnight, and shot on a 3rd coat, all with decent results.
Disclaimer I have never painted the outside of a car/truck with Rusto paint, but have many other things including frames, under hoods wheel wells trailers etc. Wih the hardner and good prep, this stuff wil be shiny, but nothing fancy about color,depth, solid old enamel color.
And before anyone jumps down my throat, this Guy asked, and I gave hime my answer, not promoting this , or advocating for Rustoleum paint....Good Luck MC
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I know from experience that I personally would not ever use anything of lesser quality than Nason. The cheaper the products means they are leaving stuff out/using inferior ingredients. Lower quality resins, less pigments = lower quality job. But I am not resticted in the products I can buy like you are. So it is easier for me to arm chair judge!
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I know from experience that I personally would not ever use anything of lesser quality than Nason. The cheaper the products means they are leaving stuff out/using inferior ingredients. Lower quality resins, less pigments = lower quality job. But I am not resticted in the products I can buy like you are. So it is easier for me to arm chair judge!
I concur, and this Dude would be better off buying an entry level paint like Nason, or Omni or something.
If he can't then he can try other things I suppose, I agree the Duplicolor is badstuff, I do not even like there rattle can products......MC
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I've used that rustoleum for painting truck step-bumpers, inside of truck beds, inside fenderwells, undercarriage, and the back-sides of wheels (for contrast). Always brushed, never sprayed...and never for "show".
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I know from experience that I personally would not ever use anything of lesser quality than Nason. The cheaper the products means they are leaving stuff out/using inferior ingredients. Lower quality resins, less pigments = lower quality job. But I am not resticted in the products I can buy like you are. So it is easier for me to arm chair judge!
Dude that belongs in my other thread, I was just measuring your reaction on the thought of only these two paint were left on the world....

and which will you chose NOW...Rustoleum or Duplicolor lacquer...
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Ok guys if there were only those 2 paint left in the world which would you paint, with a spray gun ofcourse....

Rustoleum Oil base Enamel


Or

Duplicolor Lacquer
OK Guys! let's stick to the original question for a change!! DO NOT mention other brands or techniques or opinions about what you think is junk that was not what was asked! Try not to get off track and stick to the point as it was raised.
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well.. rustoleum... both products are equally as bad, except it's pretty easy to get a nice gloss and decent coverage out of rustoleum.. both products will need to be completly stripped before applying a better paint, and both products will fade and chalk within the course of a year or so... but rustoleum is way cheaper.. it's $25/ gallon vs $80/ gallon ( $20/ quart for duplicolor )
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well.. rustoleum... both products are equally as bad, except it's pretty easy to get a nice gloss and decent coverage out of rustoleum.. both products will need to be completly stripped before applying a better paint, and both products will fade and chalk within the course of a year or so... but rustoleum is way cheaper.. it's $25/ gallon vs $80/ gallon ( $20/ quart for duplicolor )
yeah I think even the lowerend enamels will outclass even automotive Lacquers...
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