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Old 12-07-2005, 11:00 PM
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The only thing you will have to check is the backlash. It should be right on but might take some messing with. If you are looking for cheap go to a j/y and pick up an open diff and the shims to go with it. That way if you need the shims you will have them...but I don't think you will need them.

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COOL! I will look into finding a junk rig on the island s'more. I was actually hoping to just find a whole axle to throw in there, but I would really like to know how to setup backlash and stuff. I just have never had a reason to work on a axle before now. Later Triaged!
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:54 AM
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Backlash is not the only consideration when installing a new carrier or bearings... The preload on the carrier bearings is what keeps the backlash and gear to gear angle correct... Just trying to use the factory shims which are just big thick single shims might work but in most cases no it wont even with just changing the bearings on the existing carrier... Either go to the dealer and get some shim packs (normaly they come 4 to a pack) or find a shop that works on them or even ebay...? Dont depend on all maching work to be exactly the same or we would never have to check pinion depth or backlash when setting up a rearend...
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:47 PM
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Yeah, this whole thing is going to be a big learning expirience...That's what I wanted though!
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:06 PM
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the clutch pack on the loose side is most likely burnt out, the plates wear away and get thin, moving the side gear away from the center pin giving you your play. Just put a new clutch pack in it. You need not remove the carrier to do it. and it'll actually lock up when you want it to. With my last Gov-lock, I pryed out the 2 bars with the springs and weights on them, and installed a plate and spring pack from an Auburn posi, converting it to full time limited slip.

Actually you may have to pull the carrier to replace the clutches, as I don't know how to remove the flyweight shafts without a crowbar
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:15 PM
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Do you know anywhere to order the clutch packs?

Thanks man!
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:10 PM
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I'd guess GM
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Hi again guys! So we've decided to replace the gov-loc with an open unit. What will I need in terms of tools and parts? Also this should be a 10 bolt 8.5 axle right?
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It will not be an 8.5" 10 bolt. I don't remember the year changover but my 87 s10 had a 7.5" and sometime shortly after that GM changed over to 7.63". Oddly enough the ring and pinion are the same but the spline count on the axle as well as the differential are different (26 vs 28 spline).

What does your brake backing plate flange look like? The "goofy" looking 3 bolt is the older axle and I think the almost square 4 bolt one is the newer axle.

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Oops! Thought I put 7.5! I'm not sure on the brake backing plate. I was just going to go count the splines. I will check out the backing plate. Thanks Triaged!
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:49 PM
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Howdy y'all! Well the axles are 28 spine, and the brake backing plate is the 3 bolt unit. SO what all will I need to put a open diff in? What parts? Where's a good online spot to get them? What tools will I need?
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I called up Randy's Tech line, and they wanted me to take the carrier apart. They think that it might be the spider gear or a Preload? washer. I took the carrier out, but does anybody know how to take this thing apart?
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Well the new open carrier is in, and the grand total for parts AND tools was about $440.00. So really it was about the same price as getting the gov-loc tools and parts. I learned alot while setting up the gears. I put about 50 miles on that truck today, and it didn't self destruct, so I feel pretty good about it! Just an update...
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Old 03-10-2006, 07:52 PM
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Cool Glad you got it finished.
How far off was the new carrier from using the shims that were in your rear end with the gov-lock?
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Thanks! I ended up switching over .008 shims over to the right side. Pinion depth had to be increased .002...I'm still pretty happy I got this gear thing figured out!
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