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Old 12-04-2005, 10:34 PM
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?'s about shaving a body line...

Looking to see how you guys would go about shaving this body line.. I'm already pretty set on how i'm going to go about it, but I want to hear how you guys would go about it.. The groove is about 3/8" deep and goes completely around the vehicle!!
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:58 PM
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How "right" do you want to do it?

1. Cut out the line and replace it with flat metal.

2. Cut a strip of metal and weld it over the body line.

3. Fill it with a reinforced filler like Evercoats Kitty Hair.

Personally, I would be looking at number 3. Only because unless you are a master metal man (if you were you wouldn't have asked the question) you are going to be covering the sides of the truck with filler anyway, you might as well jump to the chase.

But I have to ask, why fill it? I have seen that line filled before on an S-10, it gave it a taller look do to the loss in the vertical line.

The truck already has sort of a "Velveeta box" sort of look, why accentuate it? I would look a making MORE "lines" of some sort to make the truck more interesting not less.

If you wanted to add some interest, how about filling the line with Everglass or something, then cutting in the Everglass TWO lines instead? Two perfect lines that are only an eighth of an inch wide and deep. I don't know, that sounds like it would add "interest" to the truck. Or, spend the time filling those lines instead on super detailing it, making every panel fit to perfection. THAT would be some good time spent with shocking "why the heck does it look so good" results.


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Old 12-04-2005, 11:09 PM
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Well it's a customer's ride and he demands the line's shaved, and i planned on using step 3, but I see that all choices have a chance of showing up later because of different materials contracting at different rates in different temps. I have a journal on this truck.. check it out.. you'll get a idea of what's going into it... as far as using the other steps you'd have warping problems, and even if you didn't you'd spend months welding and grinding.. and it's not like you wouldn't use filler anyways. so that kind of rules that out.
what about all metal. someone suggested using that as a filler, but I haven't used it much myself..
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I partialy shaved the line on mine. After adding Caddy tail lights I needed the body line to stop just before the light area. The line was filled by welding in 1/8" rod. I did the same to the tailgate after adding a flat panel. Very little filler was needed then the area was blocked and blocked and blocked. LOL.

Yes, that is SPI Viper red sprayed by ADTKART.
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Nice S-10, looks straight as an arrow, the SPI red also looks good!
Chad, I'd just run a block over the line to make sure there isn't any high spots at the bend that need to be worked down, then strip that area with a klean and strip disc and apply two coats of epoxy primer followed by Everglass and it'll be just fine. I highly doubt you'll see it show up down the road, it's only about 1/8" deep so well within the filler's capability. Stay away from the allmetal and metal to metal alluminum colored fillers, junk IMO.

Keeping the line like Brian suggested would be the best though, and his idea of adding a center line within the groove is an excellent idea IMO.
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I don't know about "junk" on the Metal 2 Metal but I havn't used it in years because of its poor working qualities. Everglass, Kitty Hair, Duraglass, etc. are all "reinforced fillers" like Metal 2 Metal and will do a good job.

I am thinking that it would be best to bring the filler out over the surrounding area. In other words, don't just apply it over the area and then sand it flat so there is this perfect stripe of filler going down the side of the truck. With expansion and contraction you would likely have a "ghost line" there in time.

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Well i planned on working it out a little ways as that would probably be better for longevity, I like the idea of the two little lines but he want's it flat., what does everyone else think of putting down epoxy first? I usually just apply duraglass to bare metal, but if you think epoxy would be better, I could do that.. also, i'm thinking of using a few thinner coats of duraglass instead of kitty hair, as there would be less pinholes, and I don't think it's deep enough for kitty hair anyways... and this is getting the caddy lights like the red one posted,, which looks very good I might add.. I'll stay away from all metal, and pretty much made my mind up on that, but was wondering what your thoughts on it would be..
I'm going to use basically all SPI on this one, unless i find something I don't like about it by then,, but i doubt it..
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I am not sure what year that S-10 is that you are working on. You might want to run a hard block across it and check. I believe that there is a vertical curve in the panel, including the area of the body line. That means that the filled body line will actually not be flat, but have a curve. They are a pain to block down and look good, although obviously it can be done. Using the rod to fill the line will make it easier to keep the filler from trying to flatten out when blocking.

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baddbob........

Thanks, but all the credit goes to adtkart. I learned a great deal from adtkart during this process. Even though my truck is a Chevy, adtkart (a FORD guy) worked his butt off like the truck was his. LOL.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:48 PM
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well I have my plan of attack at least....
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Check out my project journal...I shaved the line on my S10 also. I welded a rod in the bodyline and then finished it with filler.
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