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Old 11-15-2008, 10:03 PM
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Saginaw steering box

I don't know why I have a Saginaw box in my truck but it is. No one seems to know what it came out of? It has serial numbers on the casing but I guess that doesn't help. I'm guessing maybe a manual box from a Buick???? I have serious play in my steering and adjusted the box which helped quite a bit. I'm sure it's worn out and more than likely has worn parts, etc. I found a place that rebuilds them (Lee enterprises in CA) for $220.00 + parts needed. I've seen articles on rebuilding them and they don't appear too difficult to rebuild. Anyone rebuilt one? Comments? I was told to change the ratio to a quick ratio while I'm going to rebuild it. Any comments on that? Thanks guys.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:58 AM
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what kind of truck is it? what year?
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:19 PM
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Its a 56 Ford F100 truck, but the steering box was replaced by whatever this one is? It's not the original Ford box. My guess, is it's a 60 something GM manual box. I have a truck show coming up this weekend but I'll be taking it in next week for the gone through routine. Will post whatever I find out about the box. Thanks for asking.
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s10s had saginaw manual boxes, may be what you have. if so you can get a 12.7:1 power box from an 82-92 camaro.
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I have heard that Chevy Vega Manual Steering Boxes were widely used because of their small size.

There are some pictures of the unit at the above link.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:27 PM
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It's not the Vega box, I already checked that out. I know the Vega boxes are common on the 32 roadsters etc. My box is slightly bigger. I'll check on the S10 boxes. I know my box has the "s" on the casting, Saginaw, but the serial numbers are really weak to read. Maybe if I pull the unit, then I'll read it. BTW- That article was informative! Thanks.
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The Saginaw 525 box was used in a bunch of midsize cars and even manual steer trucks. It looks alot like a vega, but it is slightly larger and the shaft sticks out of the box about 3".



Check out this page from the borgeson website, it may help you ID that thang..
http://www.borgeson.com/DESIGN/STEERING%20DESIGN10.html

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I guess I should take a picture and post it so you guys can see what I got? It looks similar to the 525 box, but my shaft is a small one 1". I also have a filler hole with a plug on the front portion for adding grease which I haven't seen on too many boxes. I know it also has three bolts mounting it to the frame, if that helps. If I could find something comparable to this that would fit, I'd be happy with that also.
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Is the truck suspension stock, other than the steering box?

Is the box and pitman arm set up for side steer or cross steer?

Yes, at this point a picture would really help.

With the grease plug it sounds old.

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If anyone knows what kind of box I have, it'll be you Mikey! LOL... To answer your questions, Yes the front end is still original as in I'm running a straight axle front end. I did install a drop axle which I had to shorten both the draglink and pitman arm to reduce bumpsteer (long story). The pitman arm shaft on the box comes out through the frame and is the side steering, not a cross steering type. The setup looks very much like the original setup on a 56 Ford truck. HMMM? Interesting on the grease plug fact? I'll see if I can post a pic tomorrow for you guys. Thanks for the help all.
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Here's a couple pics I took. Any guesses?
http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/da...P101000112.JPG
http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/da.../P10100029.JPG

I know, don't comment on the paint peeling from the brake fluid or my fabulous routing of fuel and brake lines.
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I'm guessing it's a Saginaw 325 out of some kind of dodge truck with a straight axle and side steer.


I found the info in a manual that covered dodge trucks from 61-71.

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Wow Mike, I haven't heard that one yet??? Maybe its best just to replace the whole box and go from there? A lot of people are going to the Toyota 4x4 manual or power box. Thanks for input Mike!
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I found a pic of the 61-71 Dodge box, and damn if it don't look very similar. The output shaft is different as my pitman arm has teeth but again very similar. That's about as close as I've gotten to finding anything similar. I noticed the 70 and 71 has a different input shaft (from steering wheel) than the 61-69, which I believe mine is similar to. Not sure which way to go with this right now. May have to have mine rebuilt and be done with it. Where do you find a 61 Dodge pickup Steering box in good condition??
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:31 PM
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Any good steering box rebuilder should be able to straighten out that Saginaw box.

Mid Fifties F100 sells the Toyota box setup.

http://www.midfifty.com/08catalog/Page%20136_137.pdf

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