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At the shop where I can make a mess, probably sand blasting most of that out. At home, a Roloc surface conditioning disc to remove the majority then spot blaster to get the tight spots.

What are "the elements" you are talking about? I sure as heck wouldn't want it to be rained on or high humidity even. If you don't have a garage to do this, honestly, I would be thinking about a different plan. Fix stuff like this rust and get it into epoxy and then wait until you can afford to have someone do it or until you have a garage to do it in.

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Well I stay in South Carolina. Pretty much the usual, nothing too severe. Rain every now and then. Humid weather from time to time. I was thinking about using a die grinder with a pencil type attachment with a head on it and sanding in the tight spaces. These should work right? Pic below.
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:21 PM
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NOOOOOOOOO, that is WAY wrong. Those are designed to CUT material. You don't want to CUT that metal! You want to REMOVE what is on top, not CUT metal.

This is the tool you would use on an angle grinder.




It will remove what is on the surface leaving what little metal (the rust is metal that is already leaving, you don't want to cut off more!).

Angle grinder.



This is the Spot blaster I have. It is THE tool to use in tight places. Just did the front floor board in my Rambler without even covering the interior! Very, VERY handy tool to have.



http://www.tcpglobal.com/autobodydep...astergate.aspx

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NOOOOOOOOO, that is WAY wrong. Those are designed to CUT material. You don't want to CUT that metal! You want to REMOVE what is on top, not CUT metal.

This is the tool you would use on an angle grinder.




It will remove what is on the surface leaving what little metal (the rust is metal that is already leaving, you don't want to cut off more!).

Angle grinder.



This is the Spot blaster I have. It is THE tool to use in tight places. Just did the front floor board in my Rambler without even covering the interior! Very, VERY handy tool to have.



http://www.tcpglobal.com/autobodydep...astergate.aspx

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Whew!!! Thanks for the that. I would of been kickin' myself in the nads for a long time without your help. Thanks for all the info. Now, I just mad that I have to build a store house and get a quality air compressor.
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I'm kind of scare of that angle grinder and that super hard 3M Disc Brian. I thought about it and am thinking of using 36/40 grit sand paper and a Orbital Sander. What do you guys think
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That will work, but honestly the angle grinder with the disc is nothing to be afraid of. For that matter there are different "grits" and you can get a finer one. The 40 grit will actually cut the metal more than the roloc disc!

But if you are careful it will do the job too.

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That will work, but honestly the angle grinder with the disc is nothing to be afraid of. For that matter there are different "grits" and you can get a finer one. The 40 grit will actually cut the metal more than the roloc disc!

But if you are careful it will do the job too.

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Wow. Maybe I'll start with the 80 and see how that goes. The car only has the factory paint on it so it seems.
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From what I can see that is more than factory paint.

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From what I can see that is more than factory paint.

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It's thick that's for sure in certain parts, especially around the rear quarters. Orbital sander do use velcro hook and loop I think, correct? I think I saw some 3M pads with velcro. Would those work with the Orbital Sander?
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"Orbital", you mean something like this? Yeah it would "work" but man, that is for much finer "finish" work not for stripping. At least not in an area like you are working.

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"Orbital", you mean something like this? Yeah it would "work" but man, that is for much finer "finish" work not for stripping. At least not in an area like you are working.

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So this wouldn't be efficient enough?

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I'm sorry, that is for doing kitchen cabinets not tail lamp pockets on an old car. You are going to have to step it up if you are going to do this work. You need a compressor and something like that angle grinder I showed you.

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I'm sorry, that is for doing kitchen cabinets not tail lamp pockets on an old car. You are going to have to step it up if you are going to do this work. You need a compressor and something like that angle grinder I showed you.

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So a variable speed electric angle grinder would work better? And oh, I did a little research and I see what you are saying. The orbital doesn't really rotate all the way around like a grinder would.

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Maybe, but I don't know much about those tools being I use all air. If you are talking about a 6" angle grinder like this.



That is a VICIOUS tool for grinding welds in metal like building a frame. Honestly, I don't know of a tool other than maybe an electric drill or something that you could put the ROLOC disc in and use that. But something like that grinder, it is for well....grinding.

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How about a die grinder then. Like this one here:
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Yeah that should do the trick. It will be hard to use the ROLOC discs in it, awkward as hell but it would work and work well for other tools. Is there something available similar but an angle grinder?

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