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NintendoKD 03-01-2013 11:42 PM

sbc into an old Mopar
 
I have a 54' plymouth savoy with no engine but, I have the trans, needs re-sealed though. I want to put the sbc lt-1 head conversion motor in it. wondering if it would be best to have an adapter made from the trans for the existing driveline, or do a complete swap. The three on the tree would be pretty sweet with the sbc setup. probably be pretty close to blowing it or the rear end up though. I found these:
engine mount kit
Butch's Cool StuffEng & Trans Mounting Kits
blockhugger headers, or period correct 55' headers that swoop up
Summit Racing® Block Hugger Headers - SummitRacing.com
these guys make a rack and pinion for cheap for conversions like this because of the low center of gravity sbc's have when mounted interferes with the stock suspension. can also get cool stuff, like disc brake conversion etc. from them.
Home - PLYDO : the best in mopar parts!
looking forward to the unique concept of sbc in a mopar, plus the 12/1 of a lt-1 conversion
wish me luck. More info on making the lt-1 conversion would be greatly appreciated. That is the reason I started this thread.

327NUT 03-02-2013 12:12 AM

PLEASE !!!! don't put a Chevy in it, find a nice running 318, 360, 383 Mopar with trans and install that. You'll be much happier in the long run and you won't get laughed at.

NintendoKD 03-02-2013 12:47 AM

Not gonna happen.
 
Yeah....... I don't have any of those. I can't find a replacement engine. I'm not shelling out for a "cracked head" 318 or 360. I have sbc engines out the wazoo. I want something unique and budgetable. This is it. I have a ready made sbc that needs heads, everything else, working on the heads. The savoy Is already converted to 12v so no worries there. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here. Just planning my build and asking for help with what I'm planning on doing anyway. The other project is running smoothly too.

gearheadslife 03-02-2013 03:01 AM

if it was mine, I'd find a 225 slant6 add a 2.2 turbo and have at it..
I understand you have the sbc.. but you have 2 projects, you can hunt down parts for the mopar..
good luck with whatever you choose

zmaxmotorsports 03-02-2013 03:58 AM

Id put the sb in there with a turbo 350 trans behind,cheap easy combination to find parts for.
The automatic would also make life easier on the stock rearend if you do leave it in there,only thing that would worry me is crossmember/oil pan clearance depending on suspension.
Stock exhaust manifolds may buy you some clearance also,Id mock up an empty block and heads with oil pan and valve covers to stick in there first to check for clearance before committing completely:D

timothale 03-02-2013 06:30 AM

Rear end.
 
I would look for a later rear axle, I don't like working on the old tapered shaft-key drums, I think they still used the trunion u joints, go all modern, There is a wiki on converting to later axle shafts here on hotrodders.

vinniekq2 03-02-2013 07:21 AM

the :lt-1" you have? what happened to the used ported vortec engine build?
post some pictures of the car

NintendoKD 03-02-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gearheadslife (Post 1652459)
if it was mine, I'd find a 225 slant6 add a 2.2 turbo and have at it..
I understand you have the sbc.. but you have 2 projects, you can hunt down parts for the mopar..
good luck with whatever you choose


I thought about that, the slant six is my favorite engine besides the HEMI six, and I would love to have either one of those. for budget reasons I have to use what I have.

NintendoKD 03-02-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zmaxmotorsports (Post 1652462)
Id put the sb in there with a turbo 350 trans behind,cheap easy combination to find parts for.
The automatic would also make life easier on the stock rearend if you do leave it in there,only thing that would worry me is crossmember/oil pan clearance depending on suspension.
Stock exhaust manifolds may buy you some clearance also,Id mock up an empty block and heads with oil pan and valve covers to stick in there first to check for clearance before committing completely:D

thought about that, It's too bad I gave all my powerglide, and th350 cores to my buddy at the driveline shop.:(
I have a 305, that I pulled from a kids 65' impala "ran it out of oil" I can use that to mock up the install. I'll post pics when I get it into the garage. It is going to sit REALLY low, as in, pan scrapingly low:pain: I have a set of ramhorns so I should be able to pull it off, either way. I got the approval of the route 66 car club here locally, they are rooting for me now.:cool:

NintendoKD 03-02-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by timothale (Post 1652494)
I would look for a later rear axle, I don't like working on the old tapered shaft-key drums, I think they still used the trunion u joints, go all modern, There is a wiki on converting to later axle shafts here on hotrodders.


I'll look into that, I know a guy with some old Mopar rearends lying around, he needs some work on his wifes car. May be able to trade.

NintendoKD 03-02-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vinniekq2 (Post 1652507)
the :lt-1" you have? what happened to the used ported vortec engine build?
post some pictures of the car

double header, I have both. I have a buildable 010 2-bolt main block and the other block for the vortec build is in the shop getting bored/honed. Machinist needed to burn it to get all of the crap out of it, threw it back in the hot tank. Told me yesterday that the rust in cyl's 3 and 5 is not as bad as expected, and he may only have to bore 20 over. My machinist is one of those that says, "the customer is not always right, if you don't do it my way, find another machinist" he doesn't like to go "full bore" he only likes to bore as much as is necessary. $360 for the work is cheap, I would be hard pressed to find a better deal elsewhere.

cadillacdave1 03-02-2013 11:27 AM

.020 overbore machine work might be cheap but then you may need oddball sized pistons which may cost you more. Just bore it the standard .030 and get cheap off the shelf pistons. Overall this is more cost effective and simpler.

LATECH 03-02-2013 03:58 PM

Should be pretty easy to sell some chevy engines you have to buy a nice MOPAR crate 360 for in the Savoy.
I have a SBC in my clothes washer, they come clean but I aint proud of it. LOL :P

zmaxmotorsports 03-02-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LATECH (Post 1652705)
Should be pretty easy to sell some chevy engines you have to buy a nice MOPAR crate 360 for in the Savoy.
I have a SBC in my clothes washer, they come clean but I aint proud of it. LOL :P

Hahaha,now that's funny I don't care who ya are!

hkestes 03-06-2013 07:50 PM

"I want something unique"

So you are going to use a small block Chevy?

I agree with Latech, sell the small block and buy a 360, then it will be unique. Not only that but think about when you are ready to move the Savoy. Mopar guys are not going to want it becuase you bunged it up whith the Chevy, and Chevy guys are not going to want it because it is a Savoy. And lets face it a 54 Savoy is an acquired taste which the vast majority of non-Mopar guys are not going to invest in.


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