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Old 01-26-2011, 04:17 PM
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SBC Starter movement

i have a 454 w/168 tooth flexplate. well it grinds always. shimmed or not shimmed. shimmed on the out side or both holes. i have the right bolts i.e. the knurled ones. i put a pretty think washer on the out side bolt to bring in the starter. that way a paperclip would fit nicley between the two gears. i have new power cables 0 or 2 gauge cant member. ignition cable is new also. ive used new sumitt mini starters and tons of differ autozone or checkers starter. itll work for a few but then it grinds. like it moves out of place. like it to far away. i did notice the bolt has too much play in the bolt holes. when i go online checkers show a part number the same for many motors. any help would be greatly appriciated!!

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Old 01-26-2011, 04:37 PM
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Ther are more then one starter for these are you sure you have the one for the 168 tooth flywheel ?


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I think GM, makes an OEM a rear bracket, I've seen it mentioned here. A search found 8 pages of posts.
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when i went to checkers i asked for a starter for a 454 73 chevy pickup. the kicker is that the part number is the same for a 70 vette 454, 70 vette 350, a 396 and a 400 motor!!!! i have tried that brackette but it still moves. i even custom made one.i think it moves because theres too much play in the bolt holes for the starter. i have looked at different starters for a 454 from diffenret cars and the bolt hole all have play. now the bolts i use are new and are standard size 3/8. the thread is good in the block.
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cole- from my knowledge all starter gears are the same. the differences between a small and big flexplate is a small flexplate uses a inline bolt pattern. a big flexplate uses a staggared bolt pattern. mine is a staggard bolt pattern.
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Are you using the correct knurled bolts ? Sounds like it's working itself loose.I use Loctite and it works to keep them tight and also a stabilizer bracket that bolts to the side of the block.
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My father in laws farm truck does it too. I've put new bolts 2 flywheels, (1 only by me 1st was before I met his daughter) and a new starter from GM no luck I just tighten em often
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You really need to find the proper bracket to keep it form moving around. JMO
It's just going to keep giving you trouble till you give it some support.


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Renamed this thread, "Freaking Starter!!!!!" isn't a good description of the problem.
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It's the starter's we now have today.. This has been a big problem lately.. I had this problem on a few Of my cars.. The best way to fix it, Spend the money on a good Mini starter.. That's how I fixed mine.. You will keep fighting it with the over the counter starters.. You can add all the brackets you want.. It WON'T fix the problem..
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I have found that quite a few of the "rebuilt" starters have mounting holes that are wobbled out. The knurled bolt should be almost a press fit thru the starter nose housing. If not, the starter will do the hula!! Been there..

The bracket to the block is a must on BBC's
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