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Old 04-07-2012, 09:00 AM
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I'm just about ready to put my 351 W in my car and thought I should make sure that the starter matches the ring gear on the flexplate. The ring gear has 164 teeth on it and when I put the starter in place, there's no way I can see them matching up. I know there is a smaller 157 flexplate but I can't find one right now. Does anyone know if there is a different starter with the drive at a bit of an offset to work with the 164 toothe ring gear. Does the 302 starter differ from the 351W Thanks

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I'm just about ready to put my 351 W in my car and thought I should make sure that the starter matches the ring gear on the flexplate. The ring gear has 164 teeth on it and when I put the starter in place, there's no way I can see them matching up. I know there is a smaller 157 flexplate but I can't find one right now. Does anyone know if there is a different starter with the drive at a bit of an offset to work with the 164 toothe ring gear. Does the 302 starter differ from the 351W Thanks
IIRC there is a small difference between the two, but it has been a while i would make sure i was getting the correct one for the 351w not a 302. i have swapped between the two without problem but have also seen people have trouble when doing the swap. IMHO if Dave W see this he should be able to tell you for sure though.
Can you post the P/N for the starter you have now ?


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There is one starter for Auto trans cars and one for Stick shift cars,sounds like you have the wrong one.http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-9936-n...5-sfd0001.aspx this is for Auto Trans see the note a 3223 is for Stick shift.
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have trouble when doing the swap. IMHO if Dave W see this he should be able to tell you for sure though.
Can you post the P/N for the starter you have now ?


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Cole - you knew I would see this eventually .

LBL - I'm using a Ford Racing 'mini' starter for the 157 tooth auto transmission, BUT, the one you need is for the 164 tooth manual which is an M-11000-MT164. As far as price, mine was in the ball park of the Powermaster. While it may not still apply, mine at least was USA made.

The nice part with these is that they are just enough shorter that some block hugger headers will fit with ease:



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I appreciate the help. I took the starter I had and went to Napa and we found one that had a different nose on it so I took it home and it works. I guess that's the trouble you have when you buy a motor in pieces instead of buying a complete engine, not everything matches up. It's been a bit of a battle but I'm almost there. I just need a different torque converter and I can put the engine in. Thanks for the help ..
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What was the NAPA part number that worked for you ?
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The NAPA # is 44-9205 for the starter...Nice I can finally help you guys out .
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