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Old 05-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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Scratch Built Sedan takes shape

I just HAD to set up this initial section of the sedan skeleton on the chassis this morning to get the first glimpse of the project in 3-D. It's always exciting to see the project move off a piece of paper and into real life. Not too long now and I'll be able to sit inside and make vroom vroom noises.

I took the second picture with me beside the car to provide a better idea of the ride height and roof line height when completed. You can check out the complete build so far in my Cboy-Two journal here http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...81&action=view




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Old 05-03-2007, 11:06 PM
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That is some GREAT stuff and some GREAT documentation of your work. Holy crap, you are spending as much time on the documentation as on the car! Beautiful work, just beautiful.

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Old 05-04-2007, 02:06 AM
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Ditto what Brian said....fantastic job, both with the car AND documentation of the progress!
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WOW! Another great project. I don't have time tonight to read the whole (new) journal, but I will.
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That's a lot of good reading there! Nice work!
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:05 PM
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I kept checking your journal yesterday to see if you would put up a shot like that to no avail. Didn't think to look in this forum. Love the look. Always wanted an old car that I could rest my arm on like that. Always thought it would be on the A pillar not the back of the car though. Now we need one more shot - a side view with you sitting inside at drive height.
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Now we need one more shot - a side view with you sitting inside at drive height.
Stand by...I'll try to mock up the floor and a bucket seat this afternoon.
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great work and a thought

Great work I cant wait to see it done

I see you are using photoshop have you looked at google's skechUp?

google skechup


or given any thought to Autocad? maybe the older ver.14 if you like i may be able to help you find a copy of that if you drop me a note.

Keep up the great work

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Brew,

Here's my quickie head room check.

I first set up my camera on a tripod with the lens exactly at the height of the top rear corner of the door frame. I also put a level on the camera to make sure it was not angled up or down. I then backed the camera up on the garage floor until I could fit everything in the picture.

The first shot is about how I'd normally sit in the seat and the second shot I purposely sat up very straight, in fact if you look close you can see the my shoulders are even pulled away from the seat back a bit.

Keep in mind also that the actual roof of the car is 3" higher than that top 1x1 support rib you see in the (That rib is for welding the bottom edge of the roof curve - the top rib has not yet been installed). Also note that the seat is mounted here on it's full adjustment gear. If need be, I could remove or modify that mechanism to drop the seat down anywhere from 1 to 4 inches.

All in all, I think it's going to pass the headroom test. What might be of greater concern, however, it the view through the windshield (the top of the door jamb in front is the height of the top windshield cross member). This is almost always the case in a chopped and channeled car but I may be doing more seat height adjusting for reasons of visibility than actual head room problems.



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Great work, c-boy. I thought I was doing ok with the fab work on my Whippet, but I bow to you.
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Yepper cboy,you are quite a fabricator,I'll bet you get up and go to bed thinkin of project ......great work
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That new shot looks neat!! It does look a bit claustrophobic though. That will be one tiny looking body but it looks like the shoe fits. When I think of it it brings to mind the curved door portion of the "Smart Car".

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All in all, I think it's going to pass the headroom test. What might be of greater concern, however, it the view through the windshield (the top of the door jamb in front is the height of the top windshield cross member). This is almost always the case in a chopped and channeled car but I may be doing more seat height adjusting for reasons of visibility than actual head room problems.
The view through the windshield is always a problem on the really oldstyle chopped cars. The fact that we seem to like to have a forward rake to our bodies and the thickness of the header over the windshield as well as the sunvisor make it hard to see out the front windshield.

Almost all of the oldies I have ridden in with chopped tops and big and littles have that problem. I have ridden in a few mid thirties to late forties tail draggers that had chopped tops and looking out the windshield was not a problem.

I have been looking at this problem a lot as my brother-in-law's chopped channeled 31 A coupe has this problem. His seats sit right on the floor and I have to slide down on them to see out the front windshield. I don't have any trouble with the headroom but seeing out the front is a chore. The fact that he has really big and littles and uses a stock non-Z'd frame with rear coil overs certainly doesn't help the view. For him it is not a problem as he is shorter than me and can see fine straight ahead but he has had to mount a prism on the dash so he can see some of the stop lights.

I have thinking about removing the visor on the Nashty or at least cutting it back and/or possibly taking a section out of the header when I do a chop. Sectioning the header may be a problem though as that is were the windshield wiper motor mounts. Maybe get a remote motor with cable driven wiper arms.
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Maybe get a remote motor with cable driven wiper arms.
Do you have a good web source for wiper motor alternatives? I'm going to need one that is quite small and has a long (2+inches) drive shaft on it (to get through the 1x2 top header of the windshield). I could make do with just one wiper on the driver side if need be.
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There doesn't seem to be too many makers out there.

http://www.rodworx.com/product.php?item=136

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2999...per-Motor.html

The remote motor mounted one I was talking about:

http://www.specialtypowerwindows.com/powerwiperkits.htm

An article on installing the remote one:

http://www.canadianrodder.com/crbuilds/artpgs/art34.htm

And then there is always this one:

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Mo...ieldParts/1532

I have heard of using Rabbit and Toyota systems but can't find any info right now.
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Whoa, thanks for putting together all the wiper research Brew. I really wasn't trying to get you to do all of MY work.

Based on the pictures, it looks like the Rodworx unit has a long enough shaft on it to work. And if not, it appears I could fashion an extension to fit on the existing shaft.
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