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Old 12-24-2006, 06:09 PM
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Searching for Early Hemi Engine info

I just acquired an early Hemi engine and I am trying to find out its cubic inch, year of make, etc. I was told it was likely a 354 but everything I have found tells me it may be smaller, like a 270. The engine number is VT350-3150, and the number stamped in the heads is 1632153-1. I also acquired a double 4 barrel intake with the numbers 1733477 stamped on top. I have looked in the classic hemis web page and could not find those numbers. Any suggestions?

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Old 12-24-2006, 07:01 PM
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Willys 36 and Centerline are the resident hemi gurus. Centerline (do a search in membership) has a link to a hemi website, it may help. Dan
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If I had my book from Leo Linquist handy I could probably look up the casting numbers and have an answer for you. Unfortunately it's packed away and I'm not sure exactly where at the moment.

One way to tell for sure if it's a DeSoto, Dodge or Chrysler is the size of the heads. If it's a Chrysler the heads will be approximately 20 1/2" from front to back measured in the center. If it's a DeSoto the heads will be approximately 19 1/2 " and if it's a Dodge it will measure less than the DeSoto. That will at least allow you to identify which hemi family your engine belongs to.

There are a lot of VT numbers that aren't listed anywhere. Most were (331, 354) Dodge truck engines (Chrysler engines used in Dodge trucks) but I understand some could also be Canadian versions and others were replacement engines.

Good luck.
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cant help you with the deciphering but if it is a 354 and you need head gaskets, lemme know. i have a set of NOS for sale.
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Go to hothemiheads.com they have a lot of info and if you don't find what you need Bob Walker (owner) can usually answer your questions.
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Searching for Hemi Engine info

Thanks for the information, I appreciate the help!
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did u just try just googleing the numbers and see what it came up with?
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Racecop,
I looked up the numbers and had some mixed results.

The VT350 block is probably a Dodge truck 331 cu. in. 1954 or 1955.
The cylinder head casting # that I found for the 331 is listed as 1632159, not 1632153.

Your intake manifold is for a Chrysler car 1957-1958 Power Package or "300", so it originally came on a 392 hemi.

You may want to contact Leo Lindquist, who has published a comprehensive Hemi Engine Data book, which is where I got my information from. I have the first publishing, and I know there have been updates and revisions to it since then.
You can reach him (e-mail) at:leorob51@frontiernet.net

Hope this helps,

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If you have a Dodge engine and Chrysler intake manifold, they are incompatible. Virtually nothing is interchangeable between Chrysler/Dodge/Desoto hemis.

Here are the engine series numbers. this numvber is stamped on the machined lip on the block in front of the valley cover. Can't miss it.

Sequence Year Name C.I. Carb. BBL H.P.
DESOTO:
S17 - 1001 1952 Firedome 276 2 160
S16 - 1001 1953 Firedome 276 2 160
S19 - 1001 1954 Firedome 276 2 170
S21 - 1001 1955 Fireflite 291 4 200
S22 - 1001 1955 Firedome 291 2 185
S23 - 1001 1956 Firedome 330 2 230
S24 - 1001 1956 Fireflite 330 4 255
S24A -1001 1956 Adventurer 341 2-4 320
S25 - 1001 1957 Firedome 341 2 270
S26 - 1001 1957 Fireflite 341 4 295
S26A -1001 1957 Adventurer 345 2-4 345

DODGE:
D44 - 1001 1953 Red Ram 241 2 140
D50A - 1001 1954 Red Ram 241 2 140
D50 (1, 2, 3) 1954 Red Ram 241 2 150
D553 - 1001 1955 Super Red Ram 270 2-4 183 or 193
D500 - 1001 1956 D500 315 4 260
KD500 - 1001 1957 D500 325 4 or 2-4 285 or 310

CHRYSLER:
C51 - 8 - 1001 1951 Chrysler 331 2 180
C52 - 8 - 1001 1952 Chrysler 331 2 180
C53 - 8 - 1001 1953 Chrysler 331 2 180
C541 - 8 - 1001 1954 New Yorker 331 2 195
C542 - 8 - 1001 1954 New Yorker 331 4 235
WE55 - 1001 1955 New Yorker 331 2 250
NE55 - 1001 1955 New Yorker 331 4 250
CE55 - 1001 1955 Imperial 331 4 250
3NE55 - 1001 1955 C300 331 2-4 300
NE56 - 1001 1956 New Yorker 354 4 280
CE56 - 1001 1956 Imperial 354 4 280
3NE56 - 1001 1956 300B 354 2-4 340
NE57 - 1001 1957 New Yorker 392 4 325
NE57 - 1001 1957 New Yorker 392 2-4 375
CE57 - 1001 1957 Imperial 392 4 325
58N - 1001 1958 New Yorker 392 4 345
58C - 1001 1958 Imperial 392 4 345
58N3 - 1001 1958 300D 392 2-4 380

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Just to clarify a bit. The "industerial" 331 and 354 engines installed in the Dodge trucks were in fact the Chrysler version of the HEMI. In addition to installation in Dodge trucks many of the Industerial versions of also found their way into stationary applications such as irrigation pumps etc. Parts do interchange between the Chrysler industerial engines and the passenger car engines.

The numbers listed are a good information source as long as the block came from a passenger car. I have come across a number of industerial HEMIs over the years and have yet so see one that has been stamped on the rail in front of the vally pan. Some (but not all) do have a brass tag riveted to the rear of the block on the drivers side giving engine data.

The best way I know of to positively identify an industerial engine short of taking the heads off to measure bore size is through the casting number. This will be a raised number located along the side rail of the vally pan on the passenger side of the engine. You generally have to remove the intake to be able to see it.

I do have a casting number book here and can look it up if you can provide it.
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Good point, industrial, big truck and marine engines were a breed apart, Chrysler version. I should have said, Dodge Red Ram, Desoto Firedome and Chrysler Firepower are incompatible. Big truck, Industrial, Firepower, and Marine are all interchangeable Chryslers. He didn't say it was not passenger car engine so I assumed it was.
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