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Old 06-18-2013, 08:19 PM
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Second gen f body steering I'd help

Ive got a second gen f body subframe under my 50 Chevy (done by the previous owner)
It also has a 1975 Pontiac firebird 350 engine in it, from the same car?

It needs a center link, but the one I think I need (6" outer tie rod end length) is $200

The camaro one is $38 lol

From my research it appears I can change out all the tie rods and center link to camaro parts and be way cheaper.
Can anyone verify that for me?

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Can't exactly verify it but I like to look at the RockAuto site for comparisons like that. The Moog part for Camaros (DS829)is $40 and the Firebird (DS883) is a bit over $90...if you're to believe the pictures (at your own risk, they may be merely "representative"), the Firebird has a wider oil pan clearance "dip" in the middle. I'm guessing the Pontiac motor has a wider pan? If so, using the Camaro part would result in the center link hitting the pan with the steering cranked over.

Or, it's possible, the Firebird was designed with a tighter turning radius (to help sell the slightly-more-expensive version of the F-body) and it needed the wider dip for that which case, who cares.

In either event, the worst thing that might happen by using the Camaro unit is that you'd have to weld a little material on the steering stop so it hits that before the pan. Perhaps you could get the Camaro part and install it loose real carefully, check it out, and swap it for a 'Bird part if you have to but not if you don't.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:34 AM
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I got a little more info from digging around.

The difference was probably for the Pontiac fuel pump. Low on the drivers side, so they lowered the pitman arm, different center link for clearance.

I'm not using the mechanical pump, and I've moved the engine back and up.

I'll try just the Camaro center link first, and if the inner tie rods look weird I'll get them as well.

I've got a pitman arm that is flatter, and looks like the pic in this link

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So I'll try it as well.
Thanks for the help.
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