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Old 11-27-2008, 07:49 PM
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Not to sound like an ***, but did you check to see if you might have dropped any thing into the oil pan? We once left a rag in a 440, By accident of course.
You had to mention this. Years ago I stopped by a friends house to say HI. He was just getting ready to set the intake on a 454 boat engine. He had a bath towel covering the lifter valley. During our conversation, he set the intake on it for looks, and stated he would finish the build over the weekend. Note; The gaskets were on, and he liked using the rubber end seals, installed. He was still prepping it.

Well, did you know part of a bath towel can get sucked through the lifter valley drain holes in the front of the block? YEP! seized it right up.

He later told me, that in his haste the next morning, he just installed the bolts, and called it good. LOL
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I know, I know.
Its a rotten thing to mention. We were building a 440 for my uncles 68 300 and we actually got the engine in the car and running before we realized we had done it. Our first clue was lint on the dip stick. When we saw that we were sick. It turned out that we left it in the base and the oil pump started to chew it up, which we realized when we pulled the dist. We were lucky it only ruined the oil pump, but we had lint right through the whole motor!
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:38 PM
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I know, I know.
Its a rotten thing to mention. We were building a 440 for my uncles 68 300 and we actually got the engine in the car and running before we realized we had done it. Our first clue was lint on the dip stick. When we saw that we were sick. It turned out that we left it in the base and the oil pump started to chew it up, which we realized when we pulled the dist. We were lucky it only ruined the oil pump, but we had lint right through the whole motor!
Hey it's funny when you have not done yourself

But it is plausible it could have happened in this case.

I keep thinking what I would do.

Pull the engine, and pull the oil pan.

Turn the engine upside down, and squirt a lot of oil on the piston, and wrist pins. Give this time to soak in.

Pull the front 4 rod bearings, and front 2 main bearings, and look for gaulding, and just loosen the rest.

Then try to turn it over by hand both ways.

Hopefully all it will take is re-lubing the whole entire rotating assembly.
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Was this engine just "freshly" made into a 383? Or was it always run as a 383? Did you clearance the rods and the block to see that nothing was hitting?

I'm assuming that this engine is sitting in the car now, try putting it in second gear and rock it back and forth with the plugs out to relieve any compression buildup in the combustion chambers. You stated that you backed off all the valves, is this confirmed? Remove the distributor cap and check for rotor rotation (if any) as you rock the car back and forth, if none then pull the timing cover off and check timing chain and timing gear for binding, drop pan slightly to remove cover. Timing chain could have 'piled up ' inside timing cover (broken timing chain)

I wouldn't remove intake and heads as yet, there's other things to check first.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:14 AM
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After sitting that long, you may have washed the oil off the cylinder walls while cranking...it's happened to me. Pull the plugs and squirt penetrating oil into the cylinders. If it breaks loose, squirt in some engine oil and roll it over...then put the plugs back in and try it...
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Just squirted some pb blaster into the cylinders. I'm gonna pull the transmission and bellhousing in a little bit to see if there is a foreign object in the bellhousing.

There's 2 starter pockets and a clutch fork hole, so I'm thinking maybe there's something wedged in there.
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Did you remove the starter yet? Do that first.
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Thanks for the help guys, pulled the bellhousing off to find a 3/8" nut stuck between the flywheel and the bellhousing. You learn from your mistakes I guess huh? haha, I appreciate all the tips
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I'm GLAD it was something simple...not catastrophic...
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As you know, I was hoping it was something 'simple' for you.

Congratulations on a easy fix.
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Glad it was something simple!

Oh, and, you can breath now
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_gnh3w_Hns

Thanks for the help guys.
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That was a big relief for you I am sure. Glad to hear it was something simple...

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Old 11-30-2008, 09:17 AM
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stuck engine...

Hi,one time on a ford 289,i had the throw out bearing fall apart,one of the balls fell between the flywheel and bell housing,locked her up tight.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:42 AM
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Whew!

PLEASE tell us that you DID prime that engine before starting it, and that you took it up to 2500 RPM immediately in order to splash oil the cam (assuming it's a flat-tappet cam)

I learned the hard way on my 454...
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