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Old 03-22-2004, 08:54 AM
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The transformation of the 30x40 polebarn is under way. What started as a 30'x40'x12' high storage barn , has morphed into my new shop. Originally, it had outlets around the perimeter every 8' and 4 overhead lights. Now, the ceiling (metal) is in, the walls framed out (so its flush with the poles) eletrical boxes moved, 6 additional 8' low temp ballast lights on the walls, 220v outlets for the lift, the black iron pipe airlines installed, and the end wall is insulated and the wallboard is mostly up. Now the only thing left is finish insulation, wallboard, and paint. The lift will be here in a few weeks, so I got my work cut out for me ! (48) sheets of 7/16" OSB required ! At $16.95/sheet, I wanna puke ! Last year it was $6.72 / sheet. Any of my Canadien friends wanna bootleg me the other 38 sheets?

By the way, the airlines will end up costing less than I thought.
It was less than $250.00. Thats for 100' pipe, with T's, 8" nipples,T's again, street ells, reducers to 1/4"BIP, and 6" nipples/caps for water traps. Home Depot cut the 10' down to 8' for $1.00 each, and rethreaded both ends. I ended up having to buy (1) 17-3/4" piece to finish the job ! Now, the expensive part! The 11 air fittings. Harbor Freight, here I come !

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Old 03-22-2004, 02:38 PM
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Harbor Freight also has a pipe threading tool kit for only $26 if you need to do more that a couple connections. All you need then is a pipe vise.
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Old 03-22-2004, 04:43 PM
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Willys have you ever had any trouble with stuff you've purchased in Harbor freight? Cause I've been told to beware of Harbor Freight...
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Been covered many times on this board but in answer to your question, yes and no. There are some really bad HF tools - hack saw blades (hand saws that is, their power hacksaw blades are great) strip the teeth instantly. I bought a set of straight, right, left tin shears and the blades are great but the bolts were so soft they sheared off instantly! I replaced them with some grade 8s and they have been going strong ever since. I got two Chicago Pneumatic recipro saws and the gears stripped instantly. HF is great in taking back tools with no questions asked (better than Sears who give me a hassle every time) so I have never been hurt by their less-than-great stuff. The HF junk seems to be less and less available as the years go by.

On the positive side, the majority of their stuff is great. Their renches and screwdrivers are as good as any of the hardware store brands and Craftsman. I love my HF 18V cordless drill, and abuse it daily. I have a full suite of HF pneumatic tools (impact wrench, DA sander, orbital sander, power ratchet, several spray guns, several die grinders) and they never give me any trouble. The oldest is nearing 20 years old and still going. Their 29 piece drill bit set @ $9 is great. The smaller bits are a little brittle so I get the 1/16" - 1/4" "expensive" sets to supplement but the expensive bigger sizes keep up with the best of them. HF drill press, band saw, etc. are as good as any Chinese brand out there.

I have had very costly Maikita power tools fry in a few hours use and they give you zero customer support.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:54 AM
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I finished the air lines. Home depot was great. For a total of $10.00, they cut and rethreaded 10 pieces of pipe. (20 rethreads). I gave the girl my order, did my other shopping, when I came back, she was done. THATS SERVICE ! LOL I just had to go back for (1) piece. $3.00 later, I'm done!

I'm reluctant about the H-F stuff, but I do buy it. I broke (2) 5" rotating vices by overtightening them. I tightened them by hand, no pipe for assistance! Ker-pow !
I bought air connectors before, and they don't reseal well when you unplug a tool.
I bought car dollys that work great, so far. Jackstands-great. Taps-junk. Hose reel for air line- not great, but works.
I want the metal cutting bandsaw, but not sure if it will hold up.
I bought a flanger/punch. It does 16 gauge. It's OK, but jambs alot. Maybe because it was on 16 gauge? For the price, though, it works good enough.

Best part is they opened a store near me. Worst part is that its closed by the time I can get there most of the time.
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Let's see some pics as to what's going on!!! Always looking forward to see some garage pics.
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I'm reluctant about the H-F stuff, but I do buy it. I broke (2) 5" rotating vices by overtightening them. I tightened them by hand, no pipe for assistance! Ker-pow !
What do you mean by rotating vice? Milling machine vice?
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:21 AM
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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=5655


I busted 2 of them rebuilding snowmobile shocks.



Pics are coming, I'll take some tonight !
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Amazing, you would think it would take an act of congress to break one of those. Did the jaws just split? Did HF make it good?
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Beenaway,

Just for clarification, did you use 1/2" black pipe for those air runs"? Also, are you going to use teflon tape to seal the joints?

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Old 03-25-2004, 07:15 AM
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I bought them through the internet. They were such garbage, I tossed them. I figured shipping back would have been more than they were worth. The broke just behind the moveable jaw, in the round section, about 1/2" from the jaw. Junk cast iron. In their defense, I have to crank the vise down pretty hard.


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I used 3/4" pipe throughout. I also used teflon pipe sealant, not the tape. I used it before with good results.

OK Kevin-

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I'd hyperlink them, but I can never get it to work.

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All of the wallboard is up !!!! Paint and I'm ready to work on cars again !!!!!
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Painting is done !!!!!!!

Don't believe that "Killz2" will hide everything. The resin in the OSB is bleeding through. The heck with it !!
Tonight's deal is wiring up the lights on the sidewalls, and packing up the tools and scaffolding ! Then--- Its wrench flingin' time !!!

This weekend is painting the pallet racking. (Toolbox red, of course!)

The 4 post lift (Autolifters M-80) should be here at the end of next week!!!!!!!
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Beenaway....just happened to notice you had a mill in the garage. If you decide that it in your road, I'll be more than happy to take it off your hands and store it in my garage. You can even come over and use it any time you want!!!

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You want to store the lathe, too? (Other side of the Chevelle) I scored the mill on EBAY for $800.00 !! The lathe was $600.00 at a tool & die auction when they went under. The machines are the CHEAP part. Tooling, on the other hand is CRAZY ! I've always wanted one. Wouldn't know how to live without them now. I've been buying tools for 30 years,and I'm almost have a complete set! I've told my wife 10 years ago , "I only need 2 more tools, to have everything I need". I think by now, she's on to me!
I need:
A shot bag & Mallets
An English Wheel

Then,
A helving hammer
A Planishing hammer

Then,
A slip roll
A shear

Then,
......

Amazing what you have cash for when you stay out of the bars..... LOL
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