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Old 08-10-2006, 10:14 AM
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Shop time for lower ball joints

i took in 2 lower control arms with new ball joints just to get them swaped and they just called and said they are ready and $96(85USD) w/ tax (1 hour shop time). Does it really take that long or did i just get screwed over again? to me it looks like it wouldnt take long at all? i should of just bought the tools to do it myself

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Old 08-10-2006, 10:23 AM
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seems to me that a min of one hour labor is about right
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:34 AM
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That seems about the going rate for job shop work.

Most auto parts stores would have loaned/rented you a ball joint press so you could do them yourself.

BTW, if you had bought the tool, you would have had $$ left over.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:36 AM
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BTW, if you had bought the tool, you would have had $$ left over.
yeah i know now, i just looked the tools up
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:45 AM
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i took in 2 lower control arms with new ball joints just to get them swapped and they just called and said they are ready and $96(85USD) w/ tax (1 hour shop time). Does it really take that long or did i just get screwed over again? to me it looks like it wouldn't take long at all? i should of just bought the tools to do it myself
That is the going rate. But they charged you tax on labor? Is this the norm in Canada? We are not allowed to charge tax.

Keep in mind that for a repair shop to do this, they have invested the money into the ball joint press and then the labor $$ that has to be paid to the tech. Also that job pulled a tech off from another job. Just my .02

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Old 08-10-2006, 11:57 AM
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im pretty sure we get taxed for everything unless its a private sale/deal
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As far as I know, services are indeed taxed. Think of it this way: Food is not taxed; you go to the grocery store and buy an apple, you do not pay tax on it. However, if you go to a fast food restaurant, you are taxed. Even though you are buying food, the services rendered of preparing that food for you is taxed.

That's how I think of it, anyway.
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Auto repair labor cost that a customer pays is not taxed in Michigan. The only thing that is taxed is parts. I'm not sure if that changes from state to state.

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Tax is great isnt it... and gas here is worth $4.35 a gallon

everytime i start my car im bending over
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The price sounds reasonable if it is quality work. Some control arm can be easily damaged if it is not done properly. I dont think you could get a GOOD ball joint tool for under a hundred. A lot of the parts stores here in teh states will loan you one or rent you one. Cheap tools usually = hurt hands or worse
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As far as I know, services are indeed taxed. Think of it this way: Food is not taxed; you go to the grocery store and buy an apple, you do not pay tax on it. However, if you go to a fast food restaurant, you are taxed. Even though you are buying food, the services rendered of preparing that food for you is taxed.

That's how I think of it, anyway.
In California ,repair and service labor is generally not taxed.
IIRC you only get taxed on fast food if it is to eat in or around the premises. (why? I don't know)
Not all foods are tax exempt. Some convienience foods sold at convienience stores are. The tax laws there are pretty weird. Cigs and liquer are taxed also.

Installation labor is not taxed, but assembly labor to create a finished product from parts is.
Fabrication labor is taxable.
Labor to remove and replace parts, (R&R) is not taxable.
A business is not required to collect sales tax on labor of any kind that is to be resold by another company. BUT that company must have a resale # filed with you.

Parts are taxable, unless sold for resale.

Delivery charges are taxable as a service if you use your own vehicle for delivery.
The list goes on and on.........

The tax code in California got real complicated in regards to food type items a few years ago. But the labor taxes stayed pretty much the same.

I can not even guess how they do it Canada. Those long cold winters.....I'll bet those tax code writers figure out all kinds of different ways to collect taxes.


Steve is right.
I think the hour minimum to change those ball joints is a fair deal. How much time did it take the shop guy talk to you about your job,to write up your workorder, do the actual work, do the bookkeeping on your workorder, and maintain his overhead to have a shop and tools do your job in? (I have had hotrodders talk for an hour before we even START talking about the job )

You can buy the American made OTC tool for about 150-185.00 from any number of places.

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Cool, thanks for the explaination Mike.
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