[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by oldred

That could be but there is such a huge market for Acetylene I would think someone would step up and take over, just too much profit potential to ignore. Then there could very well be an ample supply from off-shore so maybe we will be importing Carbide like everything else. Whatever happens one thing we don't have to guess about and that is what is going to happen to the price!

The guy I talked to said something about the fire, he said that the price would go up, but there is no shortage, he said it was all BS, investors were calling the shots just like with gasoline. those are all his words not mine. Don't shoot the messenger.

Bob

[ogre]

^^^^


now where did i put my acetylene generator???

if your old enough to know what an acetylene generator is, your my age or older
if you have ever used an acetylene generator, your old as dirt
but i do have my carbide lamp that i bought new for caving

[oldred]

I have seen, but not used, an Acetylene generator and I have a nice collection of carbide lamps BUT both are useless without carbide and that is what there is a shortage of. The Acetylene shortage, contrived or real, would actually better be described as a shortage of carbide since that's where the Acetylene comes from.

[302 Z28]

This reminds me of a situation DuPont found itself in about 15-20 years ago. In Beaumont Texas was the U.S.'s largest methanol plant. Then one larger was built in Taiwan I believe and the price of methanol fell dramatically. DuPont decided to sell the Beaumont methanol plant for a little profit which they trumpeted loudly. Shortly after the sale of the Beaumont methanol plant the Taiwanese plant blew up and burned down creating a worldwide shortage of methanol. The firm that bought the Beaumont plant reaped a windfall.

Vince

[oldred]

If Carbide was just a convenience type of product there might be a long range shortage but whatever has happened it will be dealt with in one way or another. Carbide and Acetylene are necessary to industry and Carbide production will resume out of necessity although a price increase is almost a certainty, did I say ALMOST?

[plasmadogg]

Yes we are having a shortage it is nation wide it will last about 3 months so there will be shortages you will get your gas no problem. They may be a surcharge so yes t will go up . You do need acet for welding but if your heating or cutting use propane or one of our other fuel gases.available at your local dealer. Hope this helps. Most of.our home shops bottles stay full for.months so things will be figured out by then.

[jonahb]

On Tuesday, the 29 of April our local Praxair dealer for New Brunswick told me

that I may not even get any acetylene due to the shortage. The driver had to

call their main office and see if I was able to receive any amount. I normally

use 2 to 4 large acetylene bottle every two weeks but this time only received 1

bottle. The driver didn't know if/ when the shortage was going to stop be he

assured me that it shouldn't be very long.

[35terraplane]

Originally Posted by jonahb

On Tuesday, the 29 of April our local Praxair dealer for New Brunswick told me

that I may not even get any acetylene due to the shortage. The driver had to

call their main office and see if I was able to receive any amount. I normally

use 2 to 4 large acetylene bottle every two weeks but this time only received 1

bottle. The driver didn't know if/ when the shortage was going to stop be he

assured me that it shouldn't be very long.

You have been keeping this a secret for almost a year.LOL

Bob

[oldred]

I almost fell for this joker at first!

Hotter than Acetylene? You have some figures on this maybe? I don't mean that usual BS "more BTUs" either!

This is a BS sales pitch and nothing more!

[poncho62]

reported now.....the garage-tools mod will get it

[J&MCylinderGases]

I see my post was deleted. That's fine. My intention is not to spam but to let people know about other alternative fuel gases. This shortage situation is not bs. I've been in this industry for 12 years and have never one event impact it like this. I apologize if my post was seen as a pitch because that's not why I posted it. Don't believe me?? Look it up. I mean damn. God forbid someone try to introduce you to something new. It may take a while for the shortages to trickle down the line but it is real. I was hoping some info from inside the industry would help answer a question or two. That's it. Once again I'm sorry if it seemed like a pitch but I was honestly only trying to help. Look it up the stuff is actually great and "green" also.

[poncho62]

Your post was deleted, not because what you said, but because you included a direct link to your business.....or to promote that gas....which is not allowed in our guidelines.....thanks for understanding

[J&MCylinderGases]

My bad. It was meant to be for you guys to see it without having to search. Hell I just lost half my monthly sales and the stories are already trickling in of people halting production and I feel you people who make a living off acetylene need to know all the options. Once again this is not a pitch but my own personal opinion. I've seen this stuff demo'd at my facility. I've seen how this stuff is made and I honestly am impressed. I'm not looking for your money but I don't want you to lose any when there are options. Propane and propylene are good but not as good as acetylene. This stuff is. That's all I'm gonna say. I don't want to get deleted again because I can offer inside news on what's up with carbide industries and I'm working with small companies like mine all over the country to get carbide moving again from overseas vendors. If you have questions feel free to ask.

[J&MCylinderGases]

And for those that missed my first post here it is again minus the "illegal" stuff lol

hey guys this is real. i am a general manager at an acetylene production facility in decatur, alabama. our carbide supply has been completely cut off. the carbide industries plant in kentucky is the only carbide manufacturing facility in north america and we have no clue as to when the carbide supply will open up again. all the major companies have put their customers on alottment and i cant get ANYTHING for myself and my customers because i am competition.....or at least i was. i have been on the phone and email for two weeks trying to arrange a shipment from overseas but thats going to take at least a month. soon we will get some sort of flow going but expect prices to skyrocket because the destroyed plant fed about 60-70% of the acetylene market while western and airgas picked up the rest. now its down to the two and at the current rate they cant keep up with demand. their are many plans across the states to get some kind of supply so bear with your local company and maybe we can rebuild this industry soon. There is a product out there called magnegas that is made from recycled hydrocarbons (ie antifreeze, burnt oil, etc) that outperforms propane and propylene and is as hot if not hotter than acetylene. You can do your own search for them as I now know not to put links up. Plus with the magnegas the fumes are nowhere near as harmful to you. But you can see it for yourself

[oldred]

Originally Posted by J&MCylinderGases

is as hot if not hotter than acetylene.

I have not found the burn temperature of this gas (yet) but I seriously doubt it is as hot as Acetylene, that would be industry headline news! Also the site mentions welding, but says little else and a gas that could be used to actually weld steel with would again be headline news to the industry! I certainly could be wrong but I am willing to bet, especially considering the source for this gas (hydrocarbon fuels) that the flame chemistry will have waaaay too much Hydrogen in it to weld with, brazing sure but welding? Sorry I still see nothing here but a sales pitch and a site that is making some extravagant claims that should be an industry shaker but the first place we hear about it is on the internet?


This is not the first "miracle" gas to come along and the claims for it are about the same old tune as the others. Seriously a gas that is as hot as Acetylene and could be used to weld with would be a major breakthrough and an industry changer but outside of a relatively obscure website where is the big news? Get some facts to back up these miraculous claims and then come back and tell us about it.