[against all odds]

List possible reasons why a company could not (or should not) set up a factory in Liberia?

[E.Furgal]

we need jobs here.. nuff said

[BOBCRMAN@aol.com]

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

we need jobs here.. nuff said

But then just try to set up a manufacturing business here. I know in Michigan the government red tape/paperwork is beyond belief.

[against all odds]

Ok, good point against.

But let's say the company could benefit enormously from tax breaks for setting up the factory and then have much lower labor costs. Say $4 an hour vs. $14?

[against all odds]

The other thing i was thinking about is Let's say a company DID set up a shop here. For example, in or around Detroit, let's say.

What if the company offered minimum wage and no benefits. So no-one would work there?

[BOBCRMAN@aol.com]

You would get workers. Only because of the 20%+ unemployment, not quality tho.

[E.Furgal]

Originally Posted by against all odds

Ok, good point against.

But let's say the company could benefit enormously from tax breaks for setting up the factory and then have much lower labor costs. Say $4 an hour vs. $14?

I will not buy from that company..
I will find one that supports OUR economy.. and not just with unit sales..

companies that do this for cheap labor.. are no better than the farmers in the south that had slaves.. way back when..
American buyer still supports slavery.. it's out of sight out of mind,

[BOBCRMAN@aol.com]

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

I will not buy from that company..
I will find one that supports OUR economy.. and not just with unit sales..

companies that do this for cheap labor.. are no better than the farmers in the south that had slaves.. way back when..
American buyer still supports slavery.. it's out of sight out of mind,

You had better stay at home, not buy a modern auto or bicycle and not buy clothing, use the kitchen, or purchase consumer goods in general.

Come on, get real people..

[E.Furgal]

Originally Posted by against all odds

The other thing i was thinking about is Let's say a company DID set up a shop here. For example, in or around Detroit, let's say.

What if the company offered minimum wage and no benefits. So no-one would work there?

take the unemployment and revamp it. so if their are jobs aval. and you don't take it you loose the unemployment .. that will change....
only reason we have this problem is because they can collect a check for almost what a "starting over, low wage job pays"
their is no push to have a job.. change that.. (one groups wants to, the media calls them racist)
if you build a quailty product.. you don't need to be the cheapest out there..
if your product is so so.. all bets are off..

to put Americans back to work.. we will end up tarriffing imported goods heavily.. japan automakers saw this fact on the wall years ago. and is why they have plants/factories here..
any gain you'd have outsourcing will end soon.. and there are way WAY tomany that have been out of work and out of unemployment bennies.. and that # is only gonna get bigger.. no matter what anyone says.. they can't afford them all on welfair and will have to get the jobs back within out boarders... the EPA.. will have to change.. and it'll be forced to.. or all out dismantled.. we need oversight.. but they've gone way past that.. they need to be reeled in.. and changed.. washington fears the american people.. and so far they've not had to deal with the roits like overseas.. but as more and more become a "man on the edge" . the can't fight city hall, will become we can..
they don't want that and will change things in the 11th hour.. sadly it's gonna take this type of thing to clear their heads.

[against all odds]

i would not equate modern companies that move overseas to slave owners in that people have a choice whether they want to work for the company or not. The slaves had no such choice.

Perhaps a "solution" for people who think this is a problem would be higher import tarrifs. i personally don't see the whole thing as a problem--yet.

For example, if a foregn company wants to import a car to Japan, it's like an automatic $4000 tax. But if a Japanese company wants to sell a car here (that was not built here) then it's like $617 dollars or something like that.

[E.Furgal]

Originally Posted by BOBCRMAN@aol.com

You had better stay at home, not buy a modern auto or bicycle and not buy clothing, use the kitchen, or purchase consumer goods in general.

Come on, get real people..

false..
I just bought shirts and geans made here with american cotton..
auto's you have to look at the greater good.. where does the profits go..
my surround sound reciever is made in n.y
my sneakers in my state..
I'll stop there..

[E.Furgal]

Originally Posted by against all odds

i would not equate modern companies that move overseas to slave owners in that people have a choice whether they want to work for the company or not. The slaves had no such choice.

Perhaps a "solution" for people who think this is a problem would be higher import tarrifs. i personally don't see the whole thing as a problem--yet.

For example, if a foregn company wants to import a car to Japan, it's like an automatic $4000 tax. But if a Japanese company wants to sell a car here (that was not built here) then it's like $617 dollars or something like that.

go to a 3rd world country.. the people DON'T have a CHOICE...
they work or starve.. they don't get a housing stamp/ food stamp./welfair check/ food banks..
you travel much?

[E.Furgal]

oh and one last thing and then I'm done, feel free to live there also..

[against all odds]

Anyways, this website illustrates some of the problems in setting up factories/offices in Liberia:

Firestone Natural Rubber Company, LLC, celebrates 80 years of partnership with the people of Liberia


i feel this is a fascinating topic and we should continue it.

i will also comment on the whole "taking jobs away from americans" thing later.

[against all odds]

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

I will not buy from that company..
I will find one that supports OUR economy.. and not just with unit sales..

companies that do this for cheap labor.. are no better than the farmers in the south that had slaves.. way back when..
American buyer still supports slavery.. it's out of sight out of mind,

You have to remember that the profits of the company go to the shareholders. Now, let's say that the majority of the shareholders are Americans. Would this not be supporting the economy?