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Old 04-27-2009, 02:34 PM
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Yes, yes, and yes.

You can do corrosion free no weld metal patching with sheet metal from Menards, Home Depot, etc, and auto body adhesive. The adhesive really does a great job of preventing corrosion at the seams.

I do decent metal work with less than $150 in tools. I made my own metal brake. I have a $20 set of hammers and dollies; I got my $20 out of them 6 years ago and they still work great. I bend and crown metal with my workbench, angle iron and cheap clamps. I make bucks out of plywood, screws and glue. I use my imagination and I come up with low and no buck solutions for everything that comes my way. It's not rocket science. A caveman could do it.

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Old 04-27-2009, 03:06 PM
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paint and body work

You can do this yourself. I did our 28 with no prior experience. Now for the reality....
My skills as a welder were awful. Ended up getting my son to do the actual welding. I cut out the rust, made the new panels, screwed them in place using an overlapping piece in the back. Once he welded the seams, we removed the screws and welded the holes up. many hours for me, not a big deal for him.
Same deal with the body work. Some of it I had to redo 2 or 3 times to get it right. Final solution was to spray it all with Slick Sand, a kind of liquid polyester, that can be feather sanded nicely. Then I shot it with primer, base and clear. Looked like ****. Runs, orange peel, bugs, you name it. This was in an enclosed garage with a filter and exhaust fan. To top it off, I found lots of minor flaws I didn't find when it was in primer. Started over and block sanded the entire car and fixed every flaw. Found a pro who agreed to come and just "shoot it" on the weekend. He showed me how to properly seal the garage, how to balance the incoming to outgoing air flow, told me never to shoot at night, bugs will find a way in to the light, and laid down a nice job with his pro gun, not my cheapie. Paid him $200 for about 5 hours work. I did the buffing and polishing. I had a dedicated stall for this painting, 60 gallon air tank, da sander, air file, both a paint and primer gun.
The total job took 9 months of nights and weekends. I spent over $1000 on materials and supplies. (double dose of base and clear) Paint, hardener, thinner, primer, catalyst, various grit paper, tape, solvents, degreasers, etc. The car was in the shop the whole time. Perhaps you have more natural talent than I do, or maybe you're looking for a 30 foot paint job. But if you want a paint job you can be proud of - $350 in your driveway aint going to get it. You would be better off doing the rust repair in sections, as you can, and shooting it all in primer. It would look better than rusty, and many flaws just don't show. My .02
edit - that sounded harsh, didn't mean to. You can do this. But it is an art, it takes patience and practice. My next job will go faster and I'm betting I can do it all next time. It is a skill worth learning if you intend to do it more than once. Just have realistic expectations. If you'll be happy with "better than it is now" go for it.

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right well with my budet of 350 maybe 450.00 i dont think i can do all i'd like to do.

i may end up having to hammer out what i can and only patch the really bad holes. then cover everything up with some bondo and paint it. at least it'll be better than it was until i can get some more cash and do it again.
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Each time you redo the car, you'll get that much better at bodywork and the car will get much better. You'll just use a bunch of time redoing it. Good luck man.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:38 PM
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Do it yourself

I think you are on the right track, do what you can as you can. One more suggestion, Don't just slap bondo and paint on it. Do one thing, do it the best you can, and seal it (notice I didn't say primer it, primer has no sealing capacity to speak of.) You may only have one good fender, but "You have ONE GOOD fender" As you work your way around the car, you'll keep getting better, and you may reblock that first job. But if you did it right, that's all you'll have to do. Not rip it out and start over.
We all appreciate budget builds. If you have done a nice job on one fender, that's what we will see. We ignore the rest cause it isn't done yet.
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Another way to get supplies cheap is to hit up local body shops and paint suppliers many times they will have mismixed paint that didn't come out the exact color they needed or some one ordered and didn't pick up they will sell ya on the cheap or even give away to avoid disposal fees.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:25 AM
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Another Possible Way to Go...

I see that you live in Austin. If Austin has anything it has schools, I know I lived there and have paid a whole bunch of property taxes to support the school system I always thought the got the spelling of Texas (Taxes) wrong.

I believe the community college system offers an autobody tech degree. Find out who is running the program and go talk with them. Most schools are always looking for 'project' cars for the students to work with. Wont be the best job when done, but it will probably be better than what you can do on your own with a limited budget.

Take it from an old fart, you need to focus upon your education and career, keep it simple while in school!
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If you can't afford to do it correctly, you will always be chasing your mistakes. With that said, consider an epoxy primer paint job until you can, 1, either do it correctly or 2, can afford to pay a pro to do it. Prep for epoxy primer does take some effort, but the stuff can be color tinted, some like SPI can be used as a sandable primer, it's good protection coverage for bare metal and it has a suede like finish that will hide other sins. Just don't use a regular lacquer base or 2K primer as rust will just appear at the first rain storm.
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see what you can do with it. i wouldnt trust some illegal immigrant. i can definitly relate to havin no money. but see what you can do with a mallet and a block of wood. thats what i had to do to get all the dents outta my truck. it worked ok... but im not goin to any car shows so i could care less...

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