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Old 02-14-2011, 07:38 PM
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Should I rebuild Ford 223 or get a 302/351??

I have a 64 Ford Truck and I am getting ready to rebuild the straight six 223. (stepside) My rebuilder said it would run me 1300 for head and block, pump, ect. I started thinking that I could proly buy a 302 and tranny for around the same amount. Of course I would have to figure out motor mounts, tranny mounts, ect.
What do yall think? I am going to sell the truck after I finish with some more upgrades. Which is more sellable? As always, thanks for taking the time to lend your opinion!

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I would think you could, esp if you're going to stay carbureted.

Could probly pick up a 351, also, but that might be a tad more of course.

I know there are several makers that sell adapter kits to do that kind of
swap, just do a Search. I don't know what you'd need for oil pan,
sometimes the sump has to go front or middle or back instead of what's
on the swap motor, but the kits usually have them included.

http://fomoco.com/forummain/
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/archive/index.php/

I would think you could easily find the info you're looking for and get all
kinds of help on those forums.

I would certainly think a truck with a 302 would be worth more, esp
if it had a decent trans with it.
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Both have their advantages. Numbers matching means a lot to some people. Then there are the people who just want big power in everything they drive. Not saying you cant make Power with the 6, which you definitely can, but people view a v8 diferently. I'd stick with the 6, clean up under the hood, maybe chrome intake, valve cover, etc. It'll look sweet.
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223 or 302

just bin threw the decision,tho a devote ford fan, the older 6cyl engines are not worth the cost. i inst a 302 with a 4spd manual od trans. works well basically us
t the od for high,but will inst a later rear diff,as older trucks to low geared in the diff. the conversion is simple, you can buy mounts from several supply-rs cheap. the trans and engine ar good for scrap,302 burns same amount of fuel but has some jam and takes less engine room.less wegt on front axel. cliff
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6cyls are cool, but there isn't much out there for that old 6.. a 300 6 is about the only 6 worth messing with for a truck like that, and that conversion takes the same as a 302... I think you can use 302-351W mounts from a later truck, and even 240-300 CID mounts as they are the same, and most everything should be a bolt in, with stock parts...

'87-'96 F-150/F2-50 5.0/5.8 EFI swap would be pretty nice
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I was thinking that I would rebuild the 6, drop the truck 3 inches or so , put some smoothies and exhaust on it and call it a day. It has the old "three on the tree" and I am having trouble finding the heart to yank out the old and throw in the newer. I am looking to sell, eventually, and want to at least consider how I spend the cash. 302 definitely says more power easier, but some aren't really after power, ya know? that's why I thought I'd take a vote. If I keep the 6, I will clean up engine compartment, paint and freshen up.
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You didn't mention that it was column shift! In that case you have to keep the six. Column shift is pretty dam cool imo.
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That's what I'm thinking too bigdog. I mean I'm all for power and speed. I'm building a 400hp right along with this other. But it seems like this one needs to stay with a fresh 6, three on the tree, clean up, maybe a dropped axle. But I guess I could be wrong!!
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Older Is Always Cooler If You Can Keep It That Way
What Is Wronge With The 6 (burning Oil, Too High Mileage) If You Are Looking To Sell Spend Your Money
On Something Else Like Seats, Carpit, Paint And Let The New Owner Change It Out. Odds Are If You Spend Big Bucks You Will Never Get Your Money Back
We Are Working On A 54 F100 Bought It With No Motor Or Trans And Are Putting In What We Want!
302 Ho With 4 Speed Auto Has Under 50,000 Miles And Bought Everything Out Of A Parts Yard For Under 500.00 Bucks And That Is With Shorty Headers
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Build that old six !

My F100 1961 vin has a 223 six and it sounds like a V8....Take a look at Clifford Performance's website and it ma change your mind. All in all with shipping and all it is about the same as a V8 to build....BUT if you want a race car ? BUY A RACE CAR..... Bucket Ts with any 6 is way more power that you will ever need...and it drives people nuts when you WHEELIE with a 300 inline six @ 450 HP and 600fp torque...check UTube for more pics and videos....just type in: Ford 6

STAY OLD SCHOOL...STAY COOL DADDY O !
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