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silly question about nos

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#1 ·
I've been thinking about adding nos to my pontiac and have been reading articles on it. One thing no one ever seems to mention, and I hesitate to ask such a silly question, but where do you get those bottles filled, how much does it cost and how long does a bottle last? Thanks in advance, sorry for the silly question...
 
#4 ·
Look, NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide System, its merely a "brand" of nitrous kit. Nitrous Express, Edelbrock, and others make nitrous kits.

Call it "nos" and you're nothing more than a ricer that thinks his NOS stickers instantly give him 25hp. :rolleyes:

At least saying your car is on the bottle makes you sound like you know something about cars.

As far as filling it, a 10 pound bottle usually cost $25-30. And there's no way to tell you how long it will last without knowing how much you're spraying. We're running a 125 shot and have made 4-5 passes and still have half a bottle left. Any local speed shop will be able to fill your bottle.
 
#5 ·
hey Bigblock, first off, thanks for the info. and second, calling it "nos" does not make me a ricer or anything else for that matter... you people that are getting so testy about the term nos are merely trying to sound like you know more than the rest of us, which might be true, at least when it comes to nitrous systems, but the fact is "nos" is a generic slang term that when used everyone knows what is ment. in that regard there is nothing wrong with it, so would all you guys chill out and give it a rest? maybe you're not as smart as you think you are...
 
#6 ·
Originally posted by bigwildgrin:
<strong>but the fact is "nos" is a generic slang term that when used everyone knows what is ment.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why don't you get your sh*t straight...the only ones that call it "nos" are those stupid lil ricer kids that watch too much of the Fast and the Furious and want everyone to know they got "nawwws".

I've spent every weekend at the dragstrip talking and living 1/4 mile racing, I KNOW what I'm talking about. If you wanna disagree with me again, I got a lil Duster that I will be happy to show you the taillights.



:rolleyes:
 
#8 ·
So will I, NOS, NOS, NOS, I have raced for 35 years and called it that since. I also race at the track and everyone there calls it NOS in the pits, when we talk Nitro on our dragster everyone thinks nitrous so boohoo NOS. <img src="graemlins/spank.gif" border="0" alt="[spank]" />
 
#9 ·
well Bigblock, maybe I got a little testy too, so I apologize about that. I'm sure you do know what you are talking about, but I've pounded the quarter mile too for several years and my Pontiac might give just give you a run for your money, with or without "the bottle". just because I'm ignorant about nitrous (see I'm already learning not to use "nos" ;) ) does not mean I don't know anything about hot rods (is that term taboo too?). I might even be able to teach you a thing or two...
 
#11 ·
Originally posted by 1BAD80:
<strong>So will I, NOS, NOS, NOS, I have raced for 35 years and called it that since. I also race at the track and everyone there calls it NOS in the pits, when we talk Nitro on our dragster everyone thinks nitrous so boohoo NOS.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What kinda dummies are you talking to about nitro on your dragster and they think nitrous? Nitro-methane on a dragster is totally different than nitrous. And nobody started calling it "nos" until that F&F movie came out, I don't know who you were hanging out with in the 70's but I find it hard to believe the term "nos" was thrown around 30 years ago. Was Nitrous Oxide Systems even around that long ago? Maybe you meant NOS for "New Old Stock?" :confused:


:rolleyes:
 
#15 ·
I believe the proper universally accepted term is the chemical name N2O, which is a better description of the actual properties of the element.

So there... :p :D

Nah nah nah nah nah nah.... :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. <img src="graemlins/mwink.gif" border="0" alt="[mwink]" />

Oh and BTW BWG (holy acronym batman!), BBB carries the whip around here so if I were you I would be careful. <img src="graemlins/spank.gif" border="0" alt="[spank]" />

I don't think this bruising will ever go down... :( <img src="graemlins/spank.gif" border="0" alt="[spank]" /> Owww...
 
#17 ·
The use of nitrous oxide (N2O) as a performance enhancement has been traced back to World War II, where it was employed to give Allied aircraft "emergency" boosts in both airspeed and altitude capabilities. However, with the advent of jet propulsion at the end of WWII, the government's interest in piston-powered aircraft waned, and for the most part, nitrous R&D was shelved.
There were sporadic attempts at using nitrous oxide in race cars over the next few decades, but since for the most part it was a clandestine, closely-guarded secret, and not too many people were aware of its existence.

Finally, in the 1970s, nitrous "came out of the closet". It was the hot topic of conversation. Especially since a number of entrepreneurs brought systems to market that were highly erratic, at best. It was at this point in time when a couple of successful automotive technicians and racers, Mike Thermos and Dale Vaznaian, saw there was a potential for nitrous -done right.
Now lets see 1970 to 2003 is 33 years, oops I'm sorry I missed by 2 years, must be the nitrous from the dentist office. IM with willys do it with all motor. I have a Harley that runs 9.20s now you will call me a lousy biker, because you did not like the Easy Rider movie. This site is to help other gearheads not get into their $--t about how they ask a question. <img src="graemlins/spank.gif" border="0" alt="[spank]" />
 
#20 ·
IM just trying to help and not to jump on anyone for asking a question using the wrong wording. This site is for gearheads to ask questions so they can do their own work and fix their problems.
The Lounge section is where you want to *^.#*# someone out. I have used NOS because it was one of the first companies to come out with a system and used to calling it by that name. Most know it by that name and don't refer it to the company, most racers up this way refer it as NOS instead of saying nitrous oxide because its shorter to say. IM sorry if I hit a bad spot by saying NOS, BUT I will agree to saying nitrous oxide if you agree to explaining it to someone instead of jumping on them. I don't care for ricers either but you cant take away a high 6 second pass in the 1/4 mile either. It takes a lot to get any car going at the speed. Lets chill out. :D
 
#21 ·
Wow good thing my name is nitous_69stang and not NOS_69stang...I might be stoned to death by BF rocks. The whole debate on what to call N2O is a never ending battle... I have a similar scenario with my GF she likes to call the remote a (clicker) and it drives me nuts, so I have given up on trying to make her call it a remote...some people are just going to call N2O NOS thats the way it going to be no sense wasting your breath, just stick to the topic, questions at hand :cool: :cool:
 
#24 ·
O.K.,now to answer this question seriosly,a typical kit comes with a 10# bottle,and nitrous in my area{New Jersey} cost about $3.50 a pound.The trick to getting your monies worth out of nitrous is a presure controlled bottle heater.Most systems work best when the system pressure is up around 900 psi or a little higher.As a bottle depletes,it becomes harder for the bottle to maintain it's pressure.Unlike a compressed gas cylinder nitrous is actually a liquid when it is in the bottle.As you use the nitrous some of the liquid boils inside the bottle{nitrous boils a a tempature of 128 degrees below zero when it is being depressurized}.In order for the nitrous to be a liquid at room tempature it needs to be compressed to about 750 psi.As nitrous is being used the contents of the bottle boils and the amount of liquid decreases,but the pressure of the gas above the liquid will stay the same,so an almost empty bottle can still have 850 psi in it,but only 1# of liquid nitrous.
So all this has to be leading to something.That something is called a bottle heater.As it turns out,the less liquid nitrous you have in the cylinder,or the faster you want to press it out of the clinder,the hotter the liquid needs to be to maintain steady pressure.In most summer months you can get away without a bottle heater for the first few runs on a bottle,but after 4 or 5 runs you will do better to start using the heater.By using the heater you will get at least 2 or 3 extra runs out of the bottle regardless of weather conditions,and you will get more consistent power even when the bottle is running low on nitrous.With the typical 100 horespower jets that come with most kits a system will get about 100 seconds of running time out of a 10# bottle.In a 12 second car this could be as much as 8 runs if you keep the bottle temp and pressure up.If you fail to keep tabs on bottle pressure you could have problems with the system running fat and not givin maximum power after the cylinder is about 1/2 used,the system will still make added power just not as much of it,so a bottle heater is a good investment.Good luck.
 
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