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Old 05-19-2013, 08:32 AM
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Singer 211G256 bobbin issues

I recently purchased a Singer 211G from someone on eBay. We I collected it I checked to make sure it was running ok and it was. The guy I brought it off used it for Auto Upholstery and it was well maintained.

When I got it home, I threaded it with 92 Poly thread and I think the thread has now managed to become wrapped underneath the bobbin. I am just assuming this, I've attached a pic to show what's happening but basically the clip which holds the bobbin in place will not clip down.

Any ideas why this is?

Also when it was working (briefly) the foot would not walk, it would stay in the same place and tangle all the threads up.

Sorry if there is a simple explanation to all of this, I used to use a Juki before I made the switch.

Many thanks.
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If you have thread under the bobbin case, you need to remove the bobbin case to get it out. There are two small screws that go through a curved retainer on the right side of the bobbin case. Take those two screws out, take off the throat plate and the bobbin case will come out by turning it. Remove the bunched up thread and re-assemble. The tang on the bobbin case is held in place by a notch in the throat plate.

My guess is you are not starting to sew correctly. There are two ways to start sewing, one is to hold the two threads as you push the foot pedal. The other way (the correct way) is to hold the two threads with your left hand and turn the hand wheel with your right hand until the needle penetrates what you are trying to sew. After that you can sew normally by pushing the foot pedal. You must do this every time you take work out of the machine.

What do you mean, the foot would not walk? "Walking foot" is a generic description for the correct term which is alternating presser feet. All that means is that when the outside part of the foot is up, the inside part is down and vice versa. Your machine has compound feed which means it has two feeding systems. Needle feed, which is self explanatory, and drop feed which employs feed dogs. If it's not "walking" it's not working at all.

Whatever that is down in the bottom of the bobbin case, take it out, it doesn't belong there. That's probably why the clip won't go down. Also, make sure the machine is threaded correctly and that you are installing the bobbin correctly.
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Thanks for the help, there was a big tangle of threads under the bobbin which I have removed.

I normally start the machine off the way you have said, threads in the left hand and twist the wheel, but when I then take over with the motor, the foot doesn't walk anywhere and the threads all get bunched up underneath. I've tried correcting the tension several times now but to no avail so I wasn't sure if there was anything I was missing. Is there another reason as to why this could be doing this?

I have read a previous thread about loading the bobbin correctly etc and I have been following it, however it is still bunching?

Thanks for the step by step on how to free the bobbin, saved me £30 from a machine repair guy
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Turn the hand wheel and look at the two parts of the foot. One is up and the other is down for every revolution. If it isn't doing that, one of the shafts may be loose. If so, you need to get it repaired.
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I've checked the feet and it's functioning as it should with the different parts going up and down, but it's basically walking on the spot and all the thread in bunching up on the underside. I've checked the tension again and it still seems to be fine so I'm a bit at a loss :S
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Looks like you're going to have to take it to the repair man.
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I've checked the feet and it's functioning as it should with the different parts going up and down, but it's basically walking on the spot and all the thread in bunching up on the underside. I've checked the tension again and it still seems to be fine so I'm a bit at a loss :S
Does this machine have a stitch length per inch dial that needs adjusting?
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It doesn't have a specific dial with a specific number of stitches per inch on it, but the machine can be adjusted for stitch length. It's a plus or minus adjustment.

Here's the manual for this machine: http://parts.singerco.com/IPsvcManua...57_651_658.pdf Stitch length adjustment is on page 9.
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Thank you both for the information, the stitch length was as low as it would go and there were a couple bolts which needed tightening. It now runs like a beauty, saved me a heap of notes and time.

Many thanks again for the help
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