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Old 03-08-2011, 10:02 AM
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I have the opportunity to pick up a working 211G machine for a great price but the seller says it doesn't have a walking foot. The numbers are 211G-451-01 which from what limited info I can find should have the walking foot. Can somebody tell me about this machine?

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Old 03-08-2011, 10:51 AM
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More specifically are any of the 211G walking foot, or can this model be equipped with one? The manual says it's compound feed but that's just the needle correct? Thanks for the help!
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The 211G451 is the same as a 211G151 except the 451 has an underbed thread trimmer with a thread wiper. It is compound feed, but does not have a walking foot (alternating presser feet). None of the 211 series have a walking foot. Find a 111W153, 154, or 155.
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Dan, thanks for answering my questions. I've been looking for about 6 months for the right machine and thought this might be the one. Seller is asking $100 for the machine and table. Since I never sewed a stitch until getting a 66-16 for Christmas and knowing it won't do what I need it to, I think this 211 might be a step up and for the price and I might buy it anyway.

Another question...why do most places advertise walking presser feet for the 111 & 211 models both? That is what's confusing me.
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I've had great luck at finding walking foot sewing machines. Keep your eyes an eBay. That's where I found both of mine. Just make sure you don't purchase the 211 and turn it into a dust collector or coat rack - I have 2 machines here that I purchased in order to do upholstery and they both turned into that. Close to 250 out the window.
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So your the one out bidding me all the time on ebay! j/k

I've been searching all over the place and they just don't come up locally or ebay very much this one being local is quite a big deal.

My 66 machine spent about a month on the table and the girlfriend got tired of looking at it and tucked it away downstairs. Suits me since I practiced a ton and have been busy actually working on the car. Since it's getting closer to interior time I need to get something going.
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It's been about 7 months since I bid on one. Got what I need now. The Singer 66 is a good machine - I have one myself.
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Dan, thanks for answering my questions. I've been looking for about 6 months for the right machine and thought this might be the one. Seller is asking $100 for the machine and table. Since I never sewed a stitch until getting a 66-16 for Christmas and knowing it won't do what I need it to, I think this 211 might be a step up and for the price and I might buy it anyway.

Another question...why do most places advertise walking presser feet for the 111 & 211 models both? That is what's confusing me.
The 211 would have been used in a factory for one specific purpose, and it was probably great for what it was used for. Probably long stretches of joining something together. It's just not as versatile as a machine with a walking foot. It also doesn't have reverse. While reverse is not absolutely necessary, if you ever use a machine with reverse you'll never go back to one without.

The people who sell them don't check them out. They think the 111 and 211 are the same and they're not. They use the same housing so they do look alike.

BTW, in your original question you asked about compound feed. Compound feed means the machine uses a combination of two feeding systems. The 211 and 111 use needle feed and drop feed together. Drop feed means the machines push the work through with feed dogs and needle feed means the needle also pulls the work through. This feature holds the two parts of the work together better as you sew.
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The 211 would have been used in a factory for one specific purpose, and it was probably great for what it was used for. Probably long stretches of joining something together. It's just not as versatile as a machine with a walking foot. It also doesn't have reverse. While reverse is not absolutely necessary, if you ever use a machine with reverse you'll never go back to one without.

The people who sell them don't check them out. They think the 111 and 211 are the same and they're not. They use the same housing so they do look alike.

BTW, in your original question you asked about compound feed. Compound feed means the machine uses a combination of two feeding systems. The 211 and 111 use needle feed and drop feed together. Drop feed means the machines push the work through with feed dogs and needle feed means the needle also pulls the work through. This feature holds the two parts of the work together better as you sew.
Walking foot compound feed is the way to go. Putting upholstery aside - I've been able to mend my leather jackets on my 111W and 225. That alone was worth it to me since the last tailor I dealt with botched everything up.
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Old post, but...

I thought at least the 211G 155/156 was a walking-foot machine. I have one but have never used it and don't know how to tell... but it is advertised in many places as a walking-foot machine. Singer's service manual describes it as having "alternating presser feet." Not sure if that's the same as walking foot or not.

http://parts.singerco.com/IPsvcManua...55_211G156.pdf
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Alternating presser feet and walking foot are the same thing.

You can tell if the machine has a walking foot because the foot is in two separate pieces on two different shafts. When one half of the foot comes down, the other half of the foot goes up. Look at the picture. From right to left, the front shaft holds the needle, the middle shaft holds the inside section of the foot (in this case a presser foot) and the rear shaft holds the outside section of the foot.
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