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Old 06-02-2006, 08:51 PM
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PPG Concept all the way.

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So I have two votes for concept????

I really dont want low end but at the same time I dont want to waste money.



The plan is for one more application of surfacing primer than paint.

Will Concept require a sealer?
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Can Concept be wet sanded?
The p sheet didn't reference sanding
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I seen a really nice looking red done in singlestage Valspar, I haven't tried the stuff myself but it sure looked nice. Concept can be colorsanded and buffed like any other single stage non metalic colors. Another option is to add 50% clear into the color on your two final coats, adds depth and easier buffing but does require buying a compatible clear.
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Sprayed many gallons of PPG's concept, really a top notch product.
You dont need a sealer for concept, its sands and buffs just fine, althou adding clear does make it a tad easier.
IMO if you cant afford PPG my next choice would Dupont's Nason value line of paint. I think the OMNI brand is pure junk cant stand the stuff! But for the money Nason is a good product...Eric
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I was all set to go with Concept then I learned it was $450 a gallon!
I thought high would of been around $250. I was way off.

Nason may be the way to go
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Pretty Pricey Goods.... Eh no thanks.

If you are looking for a high end paint supplier then look to Valspar.

On the custom side they have House of Kolor
On the high end for base and water based refinish they have Debeer
On the high end for SS and also base they have Valspar refinish.
They also make primer/perl/Clear Coat.

So you want a high quality SS coating that wont break the bank !

Use this.

http://www.valspar.com/val/docmgmt/r...ument.do?id=92

Omega 2K 840 series

Its Valspar's SS Polyurethane paint. If you take a look at the data sheet
I believe you will find it is a higher solids content paint that provides better
coverage than what the folks at "Pretty Pricey Goods" are offering.

No pun intended, this is excellent paint that offers good drying times
coupled with a durable finish. It also will give the finished car/truck
a real nice DOI "Depth of Image" and it color sands / buffs easily.

Since your going to be painting your truck red, expect to attain a deep
gloss when you colorsand /buff. You can also top coat this product with
a urethane based clear if you want, Although its not required.

Your local paint shop may carry valspar, if not look around. here is a link
to a site that sells it.

http://www.autopaintdirect.com/

and some color sanding tips too

http://www.autopaintinginfo.com/cs.html

Attached pics are of the 840 SS Paint, "Yellow is a Fun color to spray" Not !
anyway the camera is not the best but you get the general idea on the DOI.

Good Luck on your project.

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So I have two votes for concept????

I really dont want low end but at the same time I dont want to waste money.



The plan is for one more application of surfacing primer than paint.

Will Concept require a sealer?
What ....my vote dont count?.....lol
IMHO......I wouldnt spray a single stage,or direct gloss as some would say,other than Concept,by PPG.I paint for a living,and normaly dont like SS/DG......but I will spray it if I have to.That said,I wouldnt put Nason,Omni,Valspar,or any other of those cut rate products on any thing I cared about.If I didnt care how long it stayed on,I would probably put the Valspar on,but only because I had a Valspar mixing system and I know the product.Oh........btw......BarryK has allways kept me on the straight and narrow,listen to him.....lol
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ok,
Now my head is spinning!
I did price a gallon and probably can get away with two quarts.

I will look into valspar and maybe get the price for a quart of Concept.

Whats the going rate to have a car sprayed at a body shop???????
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Well I can recall the price used to be $99.99, I guess times have changed.

http://www.earlscheib.com/paintProcess.php

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At the risk of being a smart but,this is like the old saying,"if you have to ask,you cant afford it".If you want to save money,do it your self.There is enough info on this site to do any thing you want to do.If you need some pointers,PM me and I will give you my phone # and walk you threw it.JMHO........
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I will take you up on your offer.
I just sprayed the last application of high build. It will take me a few days before I am ready.
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