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Old 06-01-2006, 05:00 AM
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Single stage recommendations

I am trying to choose a single stage paint that is relatively easy to apply, safe to apply at home and look good. Sounds simple????


So far I have looked into ChromaOne, Centari, Nason and a few others.
Any suggestions? Anything I should stay away from? Any significant differences?


Right now I am block sanding the second application of surfacing primer.

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As far as safe to apply at home, don't know of any. As with anyother type of automotive paints, there are hazards. They require a safe environment, including no sparks or ignition hazards, good ventilation to clear the air and good breathing air. Paint hazards will enter your system thru the air that is breathed, and also thru your skin. Using a single stage paint does not remove the hazards.

This is not to say that it cannot be done at home. I do not recommend that it ever be done in an attached garage. The fumes can, and will, enter the living area.

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What color?
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Red
Actually I am considering "Bright Red". Similar to the the color used on on '06 Ford F150's
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There are lots of good acrylic enamels out there.
Without any price considerations I'd pick Centari everytime.
It's as good as it gets. I do strongly recommend using a hardener
with it. It really increases the durability, but, that is a lot more
hazardous with the hardener. The hardeners (or activators) are
the most hazardous part of the paint.
If you wear a good respirator with good cartridges you'll be fine.
If you want cheap enamel look at Smart Shoppers.

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/Kirk...c-enamels.html
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I like PPG's single stages.I think is concept but im not sure.I usualy dont spray single stage,and I usualy hat PPG,but the last time I used it I was very pleased.Hope that helps!
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PPG's Concept is really good stuff, Dupont's Chroma One is also good. I miss the old PPG DAU. PPG's Global DG is also good but can be tough to spray for a newbie-Concept sprays the easiest of the three. Dupont Nason and PPG Omni both spray easy but don't offer the durability of the other lines-they surface scratch easier. With a solid SS I sometimes like to shoot two coats of color on then wetsand with 800 then apply two more coats like a flow coat, it turns out nice and wet looking. I wouldn't use an enamel these days. Where ever you do the paint work the proper safety precautions must be followed, no automotive paint is safe for use without personal and environmental protection.
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PPG Concept, we use it exclusively to finish large scale radio control airplanes. It covers well and lays down to a really slick durable finish.

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Whatever you choose, get an acrylic urethane and not acrylic enamel. Acrylic enamel, even with a hardener, isn't as good and a urethane paint. A urethane will be more durable, easy to colorsand and easier to repair later.
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hardner

I noticed the data sheets for most of the paints didnt list a hardner. Is the same as activator?
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I noticed the data sheets for most of the paints didnt list a hardner. Is the same as activator?
Yes it is.
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Whatever you choose, get an acrylic urethane and not acrylic enamel. Acrylic enamel, even with a hardener, isn't as good and a urethane paint. A urethane will be more durable, easy to colorsand and easier to repair later.
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Thank you GTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY some common sense stated here.
Fist Acrylic enamel is junk! just plain and simple, a red acrylic enamel has a estimated life span of 12-18 months if driven everyday.
(Save the custom photos, don't bother to post them)

Bodyshops stopped using ACE in the early 80's.
Call 20 body shops out of any local phone book and see if they shoot ACE in their shop. I have not seen one shop in years except MAACO still fool with the junk.

Also, this garbage of how good it looks and the pictures that mean nothing and could be of anything.
ANY experience painter can walk up to an ACE job no matter how good and know what it is right away.

Reading these forums you would think ACE was the next great coming.
Promoted by people that just don't know better.

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So, is Nason Ful thane a good choice?
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I have used Nason FulThane a bit. I just did my last bronco with it. It sprays real good and seams to be pretty tough.
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The good lower cost ones (urethanes.)
The Nason, Omni, Limco, Utech, Pro-tec.

An excellent mid price but real good quality is the Valspar 845-850-855 series, can't remember the number. Edit, this could be 600 series now that I think about it instead of 800. (to much MEK in the brain.)

In my book if you are loaded and want the very top end, look at the Concept or Glasurit single stage urethanes with the concept being a dream to spray.

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