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SW parts.

Great post, Good debate and finally someone (Skip White) tells it like it is. I have personally purchased numerous products from Skip White's store and was pleasantly surprised to find the quality very acceptable for the price. I have had no issues with the products he sells. I know what I am buying! How many other businessmen would post on this site and engage in a debate. Class act! My hat's off to you Mr. White!

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p/c heads

Its post like this that brought me to a set of pro comps for my sbc dragster. when we received the heads and measured them they were 67 cc combustion, we had to angle mill till they were 55cc for my application. the flow out of the box for the 210s was 279 @ .650 lift. thats not bad for a stock head. had them ported and it now flows just a tic over 300cfm. this will work on my 331 cube eng.The deck is still good after all the milling. I don't know how much but there is a bunch of alum shavings under the mill.
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:43 AM
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I wasnt trying to piss you off. I think before you recommend a part you should know the part inside and out. I hate to burst your bubble but money makes the world turn at every level. Some people dont have 1200 bucks to spend on heads for a street driven cruiser. Again I am not attacking, I just get tried of advising against something they have never tried personally.
Pissed off?? Hardly. Quite the contrary, in your case I'm merely amused.

You simply refuse to comprehend the difference in asking TOUGH questions and what you perceive as degrading a product.

I will say this but once more- please PAY ATTENTION!
  • I've NEVER said do not buy from Skip
  • I've NEVER said do not buy PC heads
  • I've NEVER said do not buy Chinese
  • I've NEVER said do not buy off shore
I HAVE said:
The fact is- IMO- SOME of the parts and pieces coming from 'elsewhere' are OK, but MANY of the parts are just hastily made, reverse-engineered pieces of **** that are bought for a pittance and sold for a pittance and a half by unscrupulous importers who could give two ****s whether or not the parts are fit for the app or not. THEY (the importers) will be gone before you can say boo, along w/your hard-earned coin- having morphed into yet another LLC w/a new name, etc.

The bottom line is- for me- to use due diligence in any expenditure that you make that involves off-shore or non-mainstream importers. This includes ALL the Chinese imports, as well as parts coming in from anywhere else. This is your best weapon against being taken.
There are quite a few first hand reports of various problems w/these heads- Skip even mentions some of them. So it's not like the heads are only being black flagged because they're Chinese. They got BF'ed because there were problems w/them, period.

Now, if you can find out what the heat treat specs are, or even what material the guides and seats are made from, that'd be something.
If I am going to spend MY money or recommend ANY product, you damn well better know I will ask as many questions as I deem fit, and with absolutely NO REGARD to anyone who gets their panties bunched up about those questions, or who misconstrue the motive behind my queries.

Now, is there anything else that you do not comprehend that I may be of service to you to explain???
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SKIP WHITE, i and my friends have bought your parts off ebay. your parts are great. i would recommend Skip White to anyone. i have no affiliation to skip, i live in NOR-CAL and restore/mod early vettes. skip whites parts are good.
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wow man it sure sounds like you all was coming down hard on his items. I'm from MD and no tons of people from DC MD and VA bought parts from skip white and are using the procomp heads I have - 2 sets 58cc 210 runners I have a little 327/30 over small block with his heads make 518 hp. I had Super Car Automotive check out the heads in May of last year they needed no work what so ever they told me bolt on go and bring the car to them after I put the motor together and dyno it, at 6200 rpm motor pulled 518 hp it was still claiming, will rev to 7400 rpm easy with hyd schneider cam grind. We all said WOW... They parts install from Skip White - Procomp heads 58cc 210 runners,
roller rocker arms 1.6 - 7"1/6 studs and girdle, Billet Distributor, Mini starter,
valve covers and gasket, exhaust gaskets, 3 pulley set, high flow water pump,a set of 8 I beam rods, fuel pump regulater, I only learn about the parts
at Budds Creek Race Way and at Cecil County Dragway in MD people are racing procomp parts and turning good numbers. I check the net and so many
forums read up on the there parts and for the many save and what I read and was told buy people who racing the procomp stuff I went that way to.

So to me make them very good heads

I have set Airflow reasearch heads right now 210 runners 2.08 / 1.65 valves

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Originally Posted by SKIP WHITE View Post
I'm surprised at the opinion some of you guys have for the offshore products on the market, and it's understandable. The Procomp heads are just as they should be, as we have sold no less than 1500 pair worldwide. It is the low quality parts that many sellers install in the heads, and worse yet, the mismatch of parts, installed by someone that knows very little about how to do it. Shame on Procomp for letting their sellers do this Our problems with these heads have been few and far between, and it's the above mentioned that causes most all of the problems. As for the Pc rods we have also sold at least 800 sets with zero issues, and built at least 200 engines with them. You would be surprised at just who makes those rods. We know where to draw the line when it comes to offshore products. I have rejected many products due to quality issues. You don't see us using the low cost Procomp cranks, lifters and oil pumps do you. My value to the hot rod community is to offer products that have a very low failure rate, and that's exactlty what I do. As for the crate motor comparison in this post, you really don't realize what we are offering. Do you really think I would put together an engine using a brand new 1pc. rms Bowtie block with inferior parts. Low cost with little sacrifice, and no failures tolorated is our objective. For those not in the know, Scat, Eagle and Comp Star cranks and rods are all made in China. Scat has exceptional quality control, as I personally know the the owner of the company and he spends four months of the year in China.
There are many sellers on the market that will sell inferior offshore products, and could care less what happens to your engine if they fail. We do care for every good reason, and don't sell junk. I'm not here to push products, just trying to set the record straight.
I had the Pro-Comp Skip white heads with zero problems and as a matter of fact I am about to order 2 more sets, One
for the small block 79 Z/28 project and the other set for the 454 BBC trike project. Also for the record I went through 5 starters none of which really ever worked well on my project truck (Gearhead of the week 65 on powerblock TV) Last week I installed a Skip White mini-starter with the supplied stud bolts and for the first time ever the starter works flawlessly. This guy knows what works and sells only that!!!
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