thanks for the reply, they are hydraulic and i was always taught to check the adjustment with the motor running. i don't do this every day so if i didn't double check it i wouldn't know if i set them up correctly in the first place. and seeing that a few were tight i guess i wasn't spot on
the first thing i am going to do is double check the firing order
as for the timing i used a timing light to set it so i dont think thats an issue.