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Old 12-07-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by schnitz
More importantly, do they even make this stuff in the U.S. anymore?

In a while, Chet.
And that's the point! When people do not buy US-made products, for whatever reason, the makers stop making them.

Did you know that 100 years ago, a watch marked "Swiss Made" was considered to be junk - only "Made in the USA" was considered to be good. In the early 1900's (so I have seen on a few research sites) Rolex had "made in the USA" on the face - and in fact, the face was made in the USA. I have one of my grandfathers old pocket watches, with a "local" brand on the face, and the Rolex marks inside. (It lives in a safe-deposit box now)

By the 1940s, it was the opposite.

In the early 1950's "made in Japan" meant it was junk. By 1959 Sony was changing that. By the mid 60's Asahi (Pentax) was up alongside Nikon as the best anywhere

In the 1970s and 80's. "Made in Taiwan" meant garbage Now I noted earlier on this thread that someone commented about some tools being not too bad, because they were Taiwanese (not Chinese)

Remember the first Korean cars? Now they are right up there in terms of quality according to the reports they get in magazines

Who builds nearly all of the mega-size oil tankers, many of the world's bridges and high-rises, most of the big container ships? (Korea)

If "made in the USA" does really not mean "high quality" any more, then why would anyone buy it? If it does mean quality, then US manufacturers are going to have to do a LOT of marketing - not just appeal to patriotism , but SHOW that their stuff actually IS high quality.

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SNAP-ON tools are indeed made in China now! They are cheap.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:37 AM
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So is the hidden message here .... stop being a cheep A S S, seek out quality and maybe the US manufactures will come back to home grown ... ?
The cheep A S S that now complains about the cheep products ........ harbor freight, are like the guy that kills his parents and then wants people to feel sorry for him because he has no parents ..........

Some get what they shop and ask for .. rant over
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Y'all don't git it

America has abandoned manufacturing because we are all too wealthy. For the most part, quality of life here is beyond anywhere in the world. Why would people in America want to work in a factory when they relatively find work in the huge plethora of job opportunities in America. We still have the most cutting edge, new and fresh industries.

Made in U.S.A. is still a valued proposition though, because if it does exist, it usually means manufacturing in high quality, low volume product categories with more of a artisan/craftsman feel to cater to niche markets. Example: Tanner Goods

On the other hand, China is hungry. They have a large population that want to work. They are willing to work in a factory in relatively poor conditions to make a living. Average quality of life overall isn't so hot compared to us. They have the man-power, attitude, need, and resources to outperform the U.S..

There are definitely products that come out of China that are of inferior quality. It's because they are very aggressive to getting to the bottom line. "Best bang for the buck" is their logical, efficient method of capitalism. Culture also plays an important part on that mentality.

But you will also see the highest quality products come from China as well. Think Apple. Not even arguably, but factually the highest quality made goods within the electronics world. In terms of materials, engineering, design, processes, the level of execution - all made in China.

It's not that they cannot achieve high quality. It's that they usually target markets they can exploit well, like what you would see at Wal-mart. The biggest margins are there and they are capitalizing on it. We can't hate on them for doing what we invented better. Don't be a hater.

I took a trip to Foxconn and I've seen where they make the bases for Apple's LED Cinema displays. These pieces go through many processes to be formed that way. If you look at them you'll notice a taper on the foot. That is CNC machined. The surface finish is also super hi-end and goes through many different processes to arrive at that hi-en consistent quality. Within that same factory they were making Nokia phone shells that were extremely cheap looking. These shells had a teal color chroma finish that were not intended for a sophisticated market like the U.S. They were made for other foreign markets that saw value in low price vs premium feel.

We shouldn't be disappointed in companies that manufacture overseas. The hard goods business is extremely competitive and to keep a company viable, sometimes it's better to build things in China or anywhere else that can do it well.

If you really care that a product needs to be built in the U.S. and you rant about how companies are 'selling out' (which is irrational & ignorant) you should blame your self. You are guaranteed to have made some buying decisions based on price value. (which is rational & smart)
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