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Old 01-24-2008, 09:02 PM
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are SNAP-ON tools made in china?!?!?!?!?!

ok i am fairly sure that pretty much everyone here has heard of snap on tools right and i will say i have a butt load of money tied up in snap on,mac,matco,cornwell but i have recently developed a very big problem with snap on .. i have a pair of snap on wire strippers Stock#: PWC16A which i got raped on off the tool truck but o'well i needed them they list on snapon's website for like 16 or 17 dollars i paid 35 off the truck but like i said i needed them and im not the shop around type of guy if i need them and they bring them buy ill pay a "fuel and time" cost to the dealer and well the whole reason i am starting this post is a guy i work with went pawn shopping (new mechanic w/o alot of funds) and bought a pair of strippers just exactly down to the size and gram weight! and lettering EXCEPT they said made in japan as wear on my pair they say snap on!!!! so i called my dealer and he said he had heard of there being close fakes but they aren't the same but if it weighs the same looks exactly the same barring the fact that the name is different could it be that snap on just stamps their name on a Chinese steel tool???? and more then doubles the price?? now don't get me wrong i probably wont stop buying snap on tools (just recently updated my box)don't bother about the price either it was more then i paid for the ford ranger i drive back and fourth every day to work
i think those of us who buy snap on /matco/mac/cornwell/sk/proto etc, need to take a real close look,
before we buy them....

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i am starting this post is a guy i work with went pawn shopping (new mechanic w/o alot of funds) and bought a pair of strippers just exactly down to the size and gram weight! and lettering EXCEPT they said made in japan as wear on my pair they say snap on!!!! so i called my dealer and he said he had heard of there being close fakes but they aren't the same but if it weighs the same looks exactly the same barring the fact that the name is different could it be that snap on just stamps their name on a Chinese steel tool???? ..
First you say..."Made in Japan"........Then it's "Chinese steel".........

Which is it? They are 2 different countries................

I have heard that Snap-On is making tools overseas now.
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I have heard the same as well. But I think there boxes are still made in the USA. I guess mac has a lot of tools made in china as well. My matco guy says all there stuff is made in USA.
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could it be that snap on just stamps their name on a Chinese steel tool???? and more then doubles the price??
Yes, if the tools are indeed made overseas, then this is at least partially true. The name Snap-On, by itself, sells tools because of the reputation behind that name. What you need to remember that even if Snap-On is making their products in China (or Japan, or wherever), they are still staking their reputation on those products. Their desire to maintain that reputation would be enough to reassure me that the product is still good, even if it is made on a different piece of dirt outside the USA.

Whenever I see or hear complaints about "Made in China" and how crappy a product must be to have that designation, I consider that in China, everything is made in China! Things like the World Finance Center which is under construction and slated to be, I think, the second tallest skyscraper in the world. If they can make massively tall, delicate buildings that don't topple over from faulty "made in China" craftsmanship, why can't they make good tools?

Disclaimer: I'm playing devil's advocate here, I acknowledge that a lot of stuff imported from China is junk.
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Not another Chinese thread...?

It's like their meals - half an hour later, you fancy another one...
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I don't know where their sockets are made, but they are now nowhere near the quality that they once were.

I have lost a few just like everyone does. I was missing a 1/4" drive 13mm short socket from a 20? yr old set. These sockets were show-chrome with black steel accent stripe. I caught a Snap-on truck at the Post Office and he grabbed one for me. It did not match at all and looked no different than the off-brand one that I was using temporarily. I think it was $15 w/tax.

I also bought some mint Snap-on sockets sets on ebay from a home handyman who barely used his tools and was relocating. I HAD hoped they were OLD Snap-ons... Wrong, these even had grind marks on the bases of a few sockets that were not polished out before plating. Nit-Picking?..Not when you figure in the price of these if you bought them new.
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Sounds like the time I went to redwing to buy boots they proudly display made in china inside the boots, the same boots that proudly display Harley Davidson on the outside.
Has everything been sold out?
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I have heard the same as well. But I think there boxes are still made in the USA. I guess mac has a lot of tools made in china as well. My matco guy says all there stuff is made in USA.
Big problem is most any retailer (be it the Costco/Target/ Matco guy) will tell you what you as a consumer wants to hear. Ultimately it is your job to do the research on what you are going to buy before you buy it. I think we've all been snookered into a purchase we've regretted later. I know I have.


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I don't know where their sockets are made, but they are now nowhere near the quality that they once were.

I have lost a few just like everyone does. I was missing a 1/4" drive 13mm short socket from a 20? yr old set. These sockets were show-chrome with black steel accent stripe. I caught a Snap-on truck at the Post Office and he grabbed one for me. It did not match at all and looked no different than the off-brand one that I was using temporarily. I think it was $15 w/tax.

I also bought some mint Snap-on sockets sets on ebay from a home handyman who barely used his tools and was relocating. I HAD hoped they were OLD Snap-ons... Wrong, these even had grind marks on the bases of a few sockets that were not polished out before plating. Nit-Picking?..Not when you figure in the price of these if you bought them new.
Oh my God if that isn't the truth, I picked up a wrench and it was full of scratches (prechrome) it looked like crap.

They are blowing it big time, they blew it when they started selling "Blue Point" cheaper tools and they are going further and further down hill. The stuff in that truck should be ART, it should be high priced art. Now, it is getting more and more like all the rest. Hell, the "rest" are getting more and more like SnapOn too! Have you looked at the quality of a "GearWrench"? Or a the high end Craftsmen tools? They are looking pretty nice.

What a shame.

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Big problem is most any retailer (be it the Costco/Target/ Matco guy) will tell you what you as a consumer wants to hear. Ultimately it is your job to do the research on what you are going to buy before you buy it. I think we've all been snookered into a purchase we've regretted later. I know I have.


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you wouldn't be talking about the 13 piece screwdriver set for 5.99, would you??? (no offence)
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I remember right after the 9-11 thing, looking at a major retail store a hat that said "proud to be made in the usa" and looking on the inside tag and saying made in china.
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Whenever I see or hear complaints about "Made in China" and how crappy a product must be to have that designation, I consider that in China, everything is made in China! Things like the World Finance Center which is under construction and slated to be, I think, the second tallest skyscraper in the world. If they can make massively tall, delicate buildings that don't topple over from faulty "made in China" craftsmanship, why can't they make good tools?

Disclaimer: I'm playing devil's advocate here, I acknowledge that a lot of stuff imported from China is junk.

Tis true, but have you seen the pics of welding protection in china, scaffolding etc....We're talking about people that for the most part, until not many years ago, lived in thatch huts & farmed. (not that it was a bad lifestyle...) Look at the Three Gorges Dam & some of the issues there.
wait until the WFC is over 70 years old & get back to me on that one.

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you wouldn't be talking about the 13 piece screwdriver set for 5.99, would you??? (no offence)
Oh, that (but I had coupons so they were even cheaper-- but equally crappy), a certain '97 Silverado parked in my driveway, the first drill I owned, I could add more, but I won't...


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Oh, that (but I had coupons so they were even cheaper-- but equally crappy), a certain '97 Silverado parked in my driveway, the first drill I owned, I could add more, but I won't...


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I bought like 20 screwdrivers for $2.50 one day at wally world Decent for the price.

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