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Old 10-27-2011, 09:43 PM
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South African rod shop makes out they built my sedan delivery.

This is total weirdness. One of the guys on a very cool forum, African Muscle Cars, just alerted me that a rod shop in South Africa is using a bunch of photos from my book to advertise what HE can build.

Here is the advertisement in its original form and here is the google translation (if that doesn't go direct to the site, just run the first link through google translator yourself).

He has been notified that he is in violation of the copyright provisions for these photos but being about a bazillion miles and a couple continents away, I doubt it will do much good.

The interesting part is this shop says they would charge R 100,000 to build this car for someone. Anybody know what that is in USD? I want to know what he thinks my work is worth.

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Old 10-27-2011, 09:50 PM
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Amazing. Looks like he did a really good copy! ALso kind of creepy I guess...

Anyway, 100,000 south african Rand is about 13,000 USD.

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Old 10-27-2011, 10:09 PM
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Anyway, 100,000 south african Rand is about 13,000 USD.
Jeebus, I don't know whether to be more insulted by the guy stealing my photos or that he thinks the car is only worth $13,000.
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Oh the humanity...

Talk about the sincerest form of flattery and a kick in the nuts at the same time!
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Seems word got back to them...ad is pulled
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Could be worth millions if he's getting work from the ad....its most likely just a scam though .......send a deposit ,we'll build you a car....
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Seems word got back to them...ad is pulled
Yes, when I checked it this morning it had been taken down. Perhaps my notification to them and maybe some word getting around the South African rodding community. Who knows. BTW, here is the web forum that caught this guy in the act. Nice bunch of rodders there spread from South Africa to Great Britain.

I wish now I would have taken a screen grab of the ad just so folks could see what it was. DBM is probably right that it was a scam just to get deposit money on a rod. I can't fathom a legitimate shop using someone else's work and photos to try to boost their own business...particularly when the photos are pretty widely available.
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I wish now I would have taken a screen grab of the ad just so folks could see what it was. DBM is probably right that it was a scam just to get deposit money on a rod. I can't fathom a legitimate shop using someone else's work and photos to try to boost their own business...particularly when the photos are pretty widely available.
Jon could run you through how to do a cache search on Google.
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Or he could google how to do a cache search on google too .
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what's more amazing is that due to the popularity of hotrodders.com someone in south africa noticed someone else using cboy's pictures in an ad.

the things we take for granted on the internet... 20 yrs ago none of us would have been able to read cboy's book.


what you should have done, like my brother did when he found out someone was linking to copy-righted pictures from his website, is change the picture to a very raunchy naked lady. my brother did that and the other site had the same picture of the lady up for 6 weeks before the guy figured it out. pay back time, hilarious too.
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Thanks Dinger and Siggy. Your posts had me doing a "now why didn't I think of that" moment.

Here's the cached ad.

And for what it's worth, here is a screen grab. (I had to grab the top and bottom of the page separately and then blend them together.)

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That is WILD! I know one time I googled "1922 Buick Roadster" and found many photos of my brother's car. All giving credit to him but one, it was on some guys personal web page with the car being HIS.

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what's more amazing is that due to the popularity of hotrodders.com someone in south africa noticed someone else using cboy's pictures in an ad. The things we take for granted on the internet... 20 yrs ago none of us would have been able to read cboy's book.
The story gets even a little better than that. The African rodding forum first posted up a thread about the book some time ago, no doubt as a result of the popularity of Hotrodders.Com around the world.

Then, as a result of the Google Analytics "gizmo" Jon utilizes for the book site, I can track back the link/source of nearly every reader of the book. In this case, the book got a bunch of "hits" from this African web site. I then visited the site, found the thread, and discovered some guys responding favorably to the book. At that point I became a member of the site so I could thank folks for reading the book and to answer any questions they might have. Jon calls this part of what I do my "International Virtual Book Promotion Tour."

Anyhow, as a result of the nice conversations I'd had on that forum, one of the members posted up the offending ad just to tip everyone off. So pretty amazing story of what a small world we now live in.

And just a note about the international popularity of Hotrodders.Com and the e-book library Jon has started here. As of yesterday, the book has been read by 27,570 rodders in 120 separate countries and translated in 76 different language via internet software.

So you are quite right about the magic of the internet, Ogre. Twenty years ago we wouldn't have even dreamed of such widespread dissemination of this sort of a book.
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That is WILD!
Jon had this terrific idea that I should have emailed the shop and started negotiations with the guy to build me that exact car. Would have made for some great comedy. Or we could have had a whole raft of HR.Com members flooding the guy with order requests for that specific car...and then we could all post up the responses from the guy.

Unfortunately the ad got taken down too soon and we lost our chance for fun and games.

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...it was on some guys personal web page with the car being HIS.
This is what I don't understand. Don't these folks ever get embarrassed about claiming a hot rod or a build they had absolutely nothing to do with? It actually gets a little sad if they have nothing of worth they can truthfully claim as their own and have to resort this sort of vicarious pride. But with the internet these days, they must all get found out very quickly.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:56 PM
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How about on chat rooms and such where they put up a photo that isn't them! I have a co-worker who had a disabled woman in her home that she took care of. She found out that the woman was using my co-workers photos as her!

Some people are what I call "Social illiterate".

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