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Old 04-14-2011, 03:17 PM
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speed wabble at low speeds

hey guys and girls out there i need help when i am going slow my rod hits a bump and shakes so bad i have to pull over and stop how do i fix this problem
it is a 1933 ford frontend mounted suicide would shocks help

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shake

maybe a steering stabilizer shock like the chevy 4x4s have
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maybe a steering stabilizer shock like the chevy 4x4s have
I was thinking the same thing.


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Guessing that you already checked everything to see if all is tight and in good shape I next would suspect alignment or perhaps bump steer.
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X2 Henry, bump steer that would probably work best. IMHO


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X2 Henry, bump steer that would probably work best. IMHO


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what do i do for bump steer i have heard that my steering pinion is 2 steap its pushing down not out
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Here's a link to a steering stabilizer . http://www.honestcharley.com/hot-rod...er-chrome.html . And a Bumpsteer Kit will correct the geometry of the suspension and steering system of your 33 for a better handling ride. JMO




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Why not post a couple of pictures? It is easier to comment on something that can be seen.
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sounds like you have problems with lateral movement of the front axle.

in the jeep community we call it "death wobble"

loose or worn front end parts like king pins,leaf spring eyes,shackles ect.

if you can grab the front bumper give the rod a good shake side to side and you see the steering wheel turning you have issues with front axle tracking.

a pic of the front end set up would help huge as with a ride that old who knows what kind of set up or whats missing from the front
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steering stabilizers only help with large sudden movements so you dont loose fingers in the steering wheel. eg a rock

they wont help with small left right movements as the shock takes a inch to valve over from rebound to compression and wont help death wobble at all.

you would be shock to know how many ppl come into my shop and ask for steering stabilizers because of death wobble and the 100s of jeeps i have dealt with this issue on not one has needed a stabilizer.


steering stabilizers add as much to suspension performance as chrome adds power to a engine.
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Death wobble is common on old Ford front ends.. Usually a combo of tires, worn parts and alignment. Not really associated with bump steer. Lets see some pics..

On my "T" I had all new parts installed and it still would do it on certain roads. I ended using a toe out front alignment setting.

I have also used early VW steering stabilizer. Just enuff resistance to stop wobble.
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I guarantee you a stabilize does work maybe not on everything but it does help, On my 79 f-150 running 17/40 gumbo mudders the stabilizer took the wobble out of it, And that thing would skeer you to death when you hit a bump if you wasen't ready for it . JMO i don't know if it will fix the OP wobble or not but it might. Do you really think those steering stabilizers would have been around for so many years if they didn't work or help some ?
i know i didn't put one on my truck because it looked good I think well i know they do work maybe not on everything, but i'm just one person. JMO



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Two experiences with steering stabilizers:

1) My T-Bucket had the problem on the first test drive, slowing at about 30 mph when the steering wheel started to oscillate rapidly and I lost my grip on it. Didn't stop until I stopped. Dropped axle car with transverse leaf spring and a pan hard bar on the front and back. Went back and checked the alignment, took out some toe-in and slightly increased the positive caster. Thought that fixed it as no problems over the next 400 miles. Then drove on some roads where I noticed a wiggle in the wheel like it wanted to start but would not develop into a full lose-your-grip episode or lose directional control. Steering stabilizer has corrected this for 7,000 trouble free miles now.

2) 1909 Stanley Steamer Model R. Happens at the upper speed range. No adjustments on the alignment are available other than to start bending parts. Stabilizer corrected this pronto.
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stabilizers have a place for sure especially on 4x4s.

its just not something that should be added to a system to solve geometry/tracking issues.

in a performance application in my opinion they have no place eg:autocross,road coarse.
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Too much caster can contribute, check that your caster is about 5 or 6 degrees, no more.
If no shocks, put them on.
VW used a steering stabilizer for years... wonder why?
If it starts to wobble, you can drive through it -- if it starts to wobble, hit the gas.
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