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Old 07-13-2005, 07:48 AM
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Spell check problem has re-appeared

Hey Jon,

Just wanted you to know that the missing "www" problem has cropped up once again. As you probably recall, some of us had problems getting the spell checker to return to the proper url because of the missing www in the address. For a couple months here the problem had pretty well disappeared. But in the last week or so, I'm seeing a LOT of new threads with the www missing.

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Old 07-14-2005, 01:19 AM
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Not every host on the Web uses "www" in its name. My own site responds to either, but that's a function of the hosting service instead of the actual domain name including "www". I'm not familiar with the problem you're talking about, so I may be completely off-base with this.

Spill checquers -- there sew easel two full. English is just too illogical for computers (and programmers) to figure out:

1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there was no time like the present, he thought it was a good time
to present the present.
8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.
11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18) After a number of injections my jaw got number.
19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

(Sorry, I don't know who first compiled that list). Never confuse a sowing sow with a sewing sow.
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Hey Grouch,

Great list of spelling problems.

BTW, here's the prior thread regarding the spell check malfunction:

http://www.hotrodders.com/t61263.htm...ht=spell+check
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cboy -- show me some specific urls and I'll check it out.

grouch -- this one's a fun headache. Non-www spellcheck urls are causing issues. I'm using an apache redirect to push all non-www traffic to the www-equivalent, but it's still causing trouble.
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Jon,

I'm getting ready for the NSRA show in Milwaukee so I'm not sure I will find any urls until I get back. So it might be a couple days...but no great rush on this. It's mostly just an annoyance rather than breakdown in the site somewhere.

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Sounds good -- I'll keep an eye out for broken spellcheck urls.
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Hey Grouch,

Great list of spelling problems.
Was just hoping to send you a grin to help with the frustration.

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BTW, here's the prior thread regarding the spell check malfunction:

http://www.hotrodders.com/t61263.htm...ht=spell+check
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grouch -- this one's a fun headache. Non-www spellcheck urls are causing issues. I'm using an apache redirect to push all non-www traffic to the www-equivalent, but it's still causing trouble.
I haven't read all the way through that thread cboy linked, but my first guess is the problem seems to be related to using "www" as a distinguishing, unique characteristic of URLs. That will break everything except those online hosts which include "www" in their name. It would probably be better for the auto-link-maker thingy to look for {protocol}{"://"}{address}. Links for ftp, http, or any other protocol could be used in posts. The spellchecker could then be told to just ignore everything between the {square bracket}url{square bracket} tags. This would put the burden on the automatic link parser where it belongs. (Any link with the evil whitespace in it deserves breakage, IMO. Maybe the parser is already smart enough to find the end of strange links.)
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It's not the spellchecking issue with urls, it's the spellchecker working when clicked from non-www board urls. The javascript box has to communicate between the spellcheck screen and the posting screen, and it's breaking when one is "www" and the other isn't.
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Oh. I'm ignorant about javascript. So it boils down to the spellchecker refusing to have two different hosts (the one with "www" and the one without) swap the post? That looks like a healthy paranoia, at least. Will you have to convince it to consider certain host names to be equivalent?

You might want to keep php's spelling checker functions in mind for your frame-off rewrite project -- http://us3.php.net/pspell
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I think it's an issue of javascript communicating between a non-www and a www url.

I'll look into pspell. It uses aspell, which is what we're using right now. But the spellchecker uses a perl script instead of php.
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Well, unless the spellchecker stops to do a dns lookup, www.hotrodders.com and hotrodders.com appear to be two completely different hosts. Is the problem jumping up when someone enters just hotrodders.com to get here and the spellchecker tries to post its results to www.hotrodders.com ?
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Is the problem jumping up when someone enters just hotrodders.com to get here and the spellchecker tries to post its results to www.hotrodders.com ?
Yes, more or less. There are some lingering thread pages w/o the www prefix.
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Yes, more or less. There are some lingering thread pages w/o the www prefix.
You shouldn't have to go through everything searching and replacing the site url. There should be a global variable like {siteurl} in the bb software where you can change it or alias it in one place. Each page should reference that variable instead of a hard-coded url. That kind of thing can eat up all of your time and keep you so tied up with mundane maintenance that you don't have any for improvements. Are there no template files?
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I've overriden the standard templating with mod_rewrite rules for better SEO. This whole url issue has been back-burnered as I'm waiting for a partner to release a new SEO scheme for vb. Once we're on that, we should be good to go.
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