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Stance & Rake - How Much?

Hi guys

I've been thinking about wheels and tyres for my car, and what sizes to go for for a good look

Most cars like mine ('71 Triumph GT6) have really poor stance, and drag their arses down the road

As I don't have a similar car to compare and measure against, I wondered how you guys decided on your stance?

Is there a general ruleof thumb as far as angles and degrees of rake, or is there no rule, and it's just trial and error until you get that look?

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No Set Rule

Hey Ant, There is no set rule, its all about individual taste. As far as a Triumph, I would not change a thing other than possibly new rear springs. This might give you a bit of butt lift.
I owned a '63 1/2 Triumph Tr4a many moons ago. It was as perfectly balanced as you can get in the way of handling. Took curves so good, it was like being on rails. It would not slide in a curve no matter how hard you pushed it. I pushed it so hard one time it lifted both right side tires off the ground at about 100mph. Scared the crap out of me, but it didn't slide.
I can only speculate that the later models were better, so I would not change a thing(maybe add a Chevy V8) olnolan
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Hi guys

I've been thinking about wheels and tyres for my car, and what sizes to go for for a good look

Most cars like mine ('71 Triumph GT6) have really poor stance, and drag their arses down the road

As I don't have a similar car to compare and measure against, I wondered how you guys decided on your stance?

Is there a general ruleof thumb as far as angles and degrees of rake, or is there no rule, and it's just trial and error until you get that look?

Thanks
the rule is what ever looks right to you
i would think that level or down in the front a little would be perfect
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The car has a transverse leaf spring on the rear, and coils in the front

At the end of each blade there's a rubber plug, which 'slides' across the other blades

These sometimes wear out, so I'll be replacing them with Teflon buttons

hopefully that'll bring the back up a little

I've got lower springs for the front, and the dampers have adjustable seats so I'll be able to lower those right down

The thing I don't know about is choosing wheel and tyre sizes

Do you fit larger diameter wheels on the rear, or are they just wider and with a taller tyre?
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The car has a transverse leaf spring on the rear, and coils in the front

At the end of each blade there's a rubber plug, which 'slides' across the other blades

These sometimes wear out, so I'll be replacing them with Teflon buttons

hopefully that'll bring the back up a little

I've got lower springs for the front, and the dampers have adjustable seats so I'll be able to lower those right down

The thing I don't know about is choosing wheel and tyre sizes

Do you fit larger diameter wheels on the rear, or are they just wider and with a taller tyre?
sounds like you will have the suspension just right.
wich tires and wheels is a hard question without knowing much about those cars.

what do they come with stock(wheel and tire size and wheel back spacing)?
and how well do they fit?
do they fill the fender opening or is there a big gap all the way around?
do they stick out or tuck under the edges of the fender?

this is where a couple of pics of a stock car would help.
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The cars originally came with 4.5"x13" wheels
Tyres were 155/80 13 which most people replace with 175/70 13
Some people switch to 185/65 13 or 205/60 13

The rear wheels don't come close to filling the rear arches, although the diameter seems about right

I was thinking possibly make the front Tyres smaller.....185/60 13
And the rears slightly larger 205/65 13

Or what about 13s on the front and 14s on the rear?

Here are a few pictures of other cars to give you an idea
They all seem to have standard size Tyres on stock wheels







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This might be too radical for your British sensibilities. LOL

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Oooooo.....that is niiiiiiice
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Something like this? I like the stance of your cars, only thing i would do is lower them all the way around, about 2 inches.
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for a start i'm going to say i'd go with a 15" front and rear
i will have to work on the width of the wheel and what size tires

if the cars in the pics are stock, and you have 2" lower springs for the front of yours, it will look great

i cant do it but if you find a wheel you like with some short tires maybee one of the art guys can photo"chop" it for you with one of those photos
they can even make it red im guessing
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Ok, to give you an idea of sizes, and also how small these cars are.....

13 inch....




14 inch....




15 inch....




16 inch....

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im having a hard time finding the 15 that i want so now im working on 16
im going by the stock size and a little larger
your pics make simple 16 i thought it might be to short but i like it in the last two pics

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after looking again ill keep working on the 15
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I like the 14's and 15's on this size car. The 16's are just too big.

Remember to take into consideration the diameter of the larger
tire and how it'll affect the gearing. The overall weight of the tire
and wheel assembly will affect performance too. I'll bet you could
get an alloy wheel (14 or 15") with a larger tire that would have the
same weight or less than the stock steel wheel and tire.

Just don't go too big on the diameter, and keep the weight low.....

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I dont know if 15s and/or 16s make the car look as though it's sitting on top of them, rather than being part of the car (if that makes any sense)
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How would you obtain your rake?

Would you go for a larger sidewall on the rear, or would you go with a larger wheel with the same size sidewall?

Hmmmmmmm
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