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Old 03-02-2006, 01:04 PM
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Starter problem?

Ok this is kinda weird. I have a 67 camaro with a 350ci and th350. When its not going to run the engine turns over very easy but when its going to start it sounds like its got super high compression. The starter can barely turn the engine! The starter keeps coming out of adjustment and it starts ringing the flywheel like a bell. Does this make any sense to anybody? Its got me all worked up!

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sounds to me like the bearings in the starter are shot. take it off and see if you can move the gear back and forth or in and out with your fingers.

and your correct... it doesnt sound right....
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Are the bolts you have holding the starter on regular bolts or are they starter bolts. Starter bolts have a shoulder on them that prevents the starter from walking around. Regular bolts will allow this no matter how tight you get them.

Check your timing and make sure it is not too far advanced.

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Doc here,

Check your timing, sounds like your way over advanced..If you pull power to the coil, and it cranks normally, and put it back and it slows up, the engine is firing against it..slowing it up..and knocking the starter out of adjustment.

You can also be detonating as you drive along, (sounds like marbles in a can as you throttle under load) a condition that is NO good for the engine.

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Starter problem?

My old starter broke where it mounts to the block so I replaced it. The bolts are standard starter bolts. It has to be the timing! Now that I think back it only started happening after I pulled the distributer to swap intakes. It all makes sense now! This site is what the internet was made for! Thanks guys!
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Doc here,

Let us know what you find!

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Starter problem?

Well I tried starting my car today. I Retarded the timing a little and started cranking. Its was turning over just fine until it got gas and tried to fire up. Bang! My brand new starter is in pieces! How can I set my timing with out the car running?? If I retard it to much it won't start at all right? I feel like a retard!
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Doc here,

If it's too far retarded, it will backfire out the pipes..

If it's too far advanced, It will kick back against the starter.

Sounds like to me, you will have to address the starter bolt issues before proceeding. If those have been changed or bent, It can throw the alignment out enough to damage the starters.

Do you have the RIGHT starter in there? 153 Vs 168 tooth flexplate? Are you using the provided shims?

Once you have addressed that issue, If your timing is correct (on #1) , you should be able to set the advance / Retard in about center travel, and it should fire up from there..(not too far back, or too far forward..) Then you can set it with a timing light.

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Starter problem?

Do I have the right starter.. Thats a good question.. The motor is not original. I really don't know much about it. I had to visually compare starters at the auto parts place to find a replacement. But with no fire or no gas it seems to do the job just fine. I am not using any shims at the moment.. It is kinda weird how the starter broke this time. The top that Shields the gear snaped off! It does not seem like that part would even be under any stress..Well maybe it would When I put my new starter in I am going to back way off the timing and play it safe. It is so nice to talk to someone about these things. I am feeling better already.
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