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Old 06-06-2005, 01:07 PM
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Still fighting with paint color

I finally got a chance to see the HOK chip books, and Nova orange looks more like Copper to me. Not what we want at all.

I thought the Molly Orange looked OK in the book, but when I was showing my daughter online she liked the Sunset a lot better. I have to admit it is closer to the original color. (at least in the online pictures)



The issues I have are
1. I am a first timer and Molly Orange is a solid color which I presume is going to be easier for a newbie than Sunset which is a Candy.

2. Although both show being painted over a white sealer, I was hoping to get away with painting over the gray primer. I would guess a white or metallic base is a lot more important for candys? So that would be a additional cost to get the base.

Is anyone good with mixing colors ... is there any way I could buy a pint of some other color (yellow maybe?) and mix with the Molly to get close to the color of Sunset? Or should I just give up on HOK and go get some Omni Omaha Orange and call it good?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:31 PM
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Shakey, I'm not a pro but my advice would be to never choose a paint color based solely on a tiny paint chip. It's really hard to get a true idea of how a color is going to look on the car from those. Your best bet is to get out and find a color you like on a car so you can see it on a large area. Check out local car lots or go to some cruise ins. I'll bet you find something you like pretty quickly.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:28 PM
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Shaky don't worry, HOK Sunset is not a candy, it's a basecoat. If you can shoot a metalic base you can shoot HOK sunset. Yes you will need a white base to shoot over, or a white sealer.

By the way that is a beautiful color, If you were to see it in person I know you will love it. I'll try to get a pic for you.
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Sunset is a pearl not a kandy its pretty easy to spray however, molly orange would be the easiest.. you can spray both over a gray base if its uniform.. white would be the best but gray will work.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:48 PM
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Here are some online pix of sunset pearl. I'm sure this will give you a better idea, but trust me it's ALOT BETTER in person. HOK Sunset just happens to be one of my favorit colors









this has a HOK tanjello base, with HOK sunsetpearl flames


Sunset fading into sunrise pearl
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:00 PM
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Thanks guys. Sorry, got mixed up on my Candys and Pearls ... wish I could get my wife mixed up on that one

For what started out as a simple first time shot at painting, I can't believe I am now considering doing pearls. I saw all the issues Ratchet ran into and I think he had done some painting before.

I do like the color though. Would anyone happen to have any pictures of anything painted Molly Orange?
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:53 PM
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Pearls

Dont sweat pearls shakey, people think they are much harder than they are, but candys are a different story... they can make your hair fall out in chunks!!!! Get a few practice panels when you get your paint choice nailed down and practice spraying a little before you start on your ride.... Spraying is the easy part.... everything before it and after are the hardest... It is a sweet color!!

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Thanks guys. Now the big question is if there is enough money left in the budget for it. I do like the color though.

For a 72 VW beetle do you think that 2 quarts of the white and 3 quarts of Sunset would do jambs and under front and rear hoods and all exterior?

If this turns out to be too expensive, I am going to have to check back into my options on PPG stuff. What is the next step up from Omni in a BC/CC system?
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go with two quarts of epoxy sealer in white then ur three quarts of pbc should be enough definatly for the outside and door jambs.. under the hood and trunk depending on how mush u are painting u should be fine.. might turn out to be cheaper then ppg.. u can get the epoxy and clear for southernpolyurethanes.com and just order the house of kolor pbc from autobodydepot.com easiest way i think.. the hok clear isnt that great and is more then spi's universal clear which works great. my guess is between the epoxy and clear from spi your looking at close to 200 and the pbc from autobodydepot.com is like 65 a quart tops, plus the hok reducer which is 30 for a gallon..so around 430 for everything.
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You could also try www.smartshoppersinc.com they got great prices on HOK
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Actually by the time you add in their goofy shipping charges their price isn't that good.

3Qts Sunset, 2Qts BC 26 White, 1Gal Reducer with shipping comes to

Crash Supply 250.03
HOK Paint 251.95
Eastwood 258.60 (With the current 10% off deal)
SmartShop 298.94
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first time i actually looked at smartshoppers.com.. is the ups price the price of product with shipping charge added?


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Actually by the time you add in their goofy shipping charges their price isn't that good.

3Qts Sunset, 2Qts BC 26 White, 1Gal Reducer with shipping comes to

Crash Supply 250.03
HOK Paint 251.95
Eastwood 258.60 (With the current 10% off deal)
SmartShop 298.94
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No, that is just the price of the product. You can find the shipping charges and expination about the Truck stuff Here
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Actually by the time you add in their goofy shipping charges their price isn't that good.

3Qts Sunset, 2Qts BC 26 White, 1Gal Reducer with shipping comes to

Crash Supply 250.03
HOK Paint 251.95
Eastwood 258.60 (With the current 10% off deal)
SmartShop 298.94

Interesting, I never thought of the shipping. I've only done a few large orders, and got the free shipping.

Any way......is there a link to "Crash Supply" ?
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It is just www.crashsupply.com
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