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Old 08-14-2003, 06:29 PM
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still smoking...

ok..if i leave my car running up til operating temperature, it still smokes anti freeze. i looked at the muffler, and it was SLIGHTLY dripping brown instead of antifreeze, like antifreeze mixed with oil. how can this happen? do u think its just burning crap off my exhaust, and thats why it only does it at operating temperature?

also, my car lack ALOT of power. i could hardly get outta the parking spot, without it dying. the engine also struggles real hard. the smoke coming from the exhaust is bad, but not enough to see from outside the car. do u think im alright? and what do u think could be causing the power struggle? fine tuning like timing or what? all help is appreciated.

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Old 08-14-2003, 06:35 PM
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That sounds like a bad head gasket or worse. I recommend a compression test.
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Old 08-14-2003, 07:47 PM
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already did. still didnt fix it, then swapped the heads. fixed it just fine, til operating temperature

and remember, it doesnt do it til the engine is hot, and it only emits 1/4 or 1/3 of the smoke it used to. cant even see the smoke from outside the car

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Old 08-14-2003, 08:01 PM
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Did you do a compression test?

Did you find any low cylinders?

You could have a cracked head.
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:41 PM
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i didnt do a test. and the heads are not cracked. the machine shop checked them, then resurfaced them. im suspecting a block crack or maybe this smoking will eventually stop.

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In order to find the problem you need to break out some tools and do a couple of simple tests. you need to do a compression test, a leak down test wouldn't hurt, and a pressure test of the coolant system. Could have a cracked/ warped block, cracked/warped head( I have had more than a few bad parts after the shop checked them, rebuilt them, etc). warped/cracked intake. If you want this stuff done right you have to do it yourself.
Then if all those tests pan out you can start looking for weird stuff like coolant leaking from the radiator and beig blown on the exhaust manifold and being drawn into the exhaust system through a faulty gasket(I did say weird stuff), or a coolant overflow hose being connected to the intake manifold. But do the standard tests first.
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Old 08-15-2003, 08:38 AM
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Check the color of the spark plugs. Are they tan/brown or are they black and fouled? If so, are all that way or just some? Which cylinders are worst.

You may have to clean them or replace them, then check again after you have heated it up.

You may just have antifreeze or oil leaking onto the exhaust manifold, but that wouldn't cause it to run rough.
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Old 08-15-2003, 10:01 AM
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all the spark plugs were glazed caused by heated up and cooling down extremely fast which makes sense from running without the radiator for those short months.
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well, If you reused the stock head bolts you proboly have a blown head gasket, torque to yeild head bolts should only be used once...
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First,don't freak out. It takes more than just getting the engine to operating temps to get the antifreeze burned from the exhaust,remember it has a lot higher boiling point than just water. I've seen cars run as long as a 45 minutes before the clouds started dissipating. Warm it up (outside,of course) and then drive it a few miles and get on it some to help blow some of it out, you'd be surprised how much can get into and trapped in the exhaust (think about the muffler baffling and if cat comstruction if you're running them), it should start lessening after that, and finally disappear. Also moisture dripping from the exhaust is not unusual, it's a by-product of the combustion process and is why most exhaust fail from the inside out.
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