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Old 02-16-2004, 02:13 PM
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Storing diesel fuel

Is there anything special about storing diesel fuel???

I want to start filling up 55 gallon barrels to save for high fuel prices or a rainy day.

They would be stored outside in the elements, would they need a vent or anything like that???

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Old 02-16-2004, 02:35 PM
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I thought about that too man, except with regular gasoline. If things end up sour in the middle east, we need a backup plan. What better to invest in but a good 'ol fashioned supply and demand staple.

I thought about just getting a big tank and putting it underground. Oh well, that's about as far as my idea went. Sorry, but I'm drawing a blank man.


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Old 02-16-2004, 03:26 PM
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Probably not worth the trouble, fuel is a volatile commodity and has to be used in a certain amount of time before it goes bad from loss of lighter aromatic compounds.

Willys probably has a better idea on how to do this, he is a petroleum engineer with a lot of knowledge in the area
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:46 PM
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You mean to tell me gasoline (Octane) can spoil?!?! That's it, I want a born-on-date at every pump now!!!!

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will gas spoil?

Yes the gas turns to a jelly in your carb if it sets to ling and looses its power, smells like varnish and won't run very well in your car. You are right about the volatile think Chuck. Not worth the trouble. Where would you store it out of the weather and sun light and a safe distance from your house or garage so if it blows it dosn't take you out with it??


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Gas doesn't 'spoil' per se - but if you leave it in your car / bike /etc it will turn into varnish and eff your carbs all up.

In my bike I use Sta-bil or similair to keep the gas stable over the winter.

I would also be concerned about condensation.
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:59 PM
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Man, I never realized much about gasoline other than the Octane rating is its resistance to combustion under compression before the spark. I guess the only way is to buy an old gas station and run the darn thing. At least that way I can have my own fresh source and make money off of it too.

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Old 02-16-2004, 04:07 PM
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Gas doesn't 'spoil' per se - but if you leave it in your car / bike /etc it will turn into varnish and eff your carbs all up.
?????? If it isn't spoiling then what is it doing when it turns to varnish? SPOIL 2 : to lose valuable or useful qualities usually as a result of decay

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2 : to decrease gradually in quantity, activity, or force
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I don't know if I would describe gasoline as "volatile." You could drop a match into an open gas container or stuff a flaming rag into your gas tank and neither will detonate. Gas is flammable and that is about it, it only combusts under pressure. My father is a bomb tech here in Michigan and I think he still has the FBI reports on these tests. Gasoline is feared as volatile mainly because of Hollywood.

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Old 02-17-2004, 07:48 AM
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Killer, after many years of my pyro-tendancies, I proved that theory. Took an empty beer bottle, filled it about 1/3 with gasoline and threw it in the campfire open lid. Everyone ran like crazy when I threw it thinking it was gonna grenade. Nah, it just made a really nice flame about 4 feet high.

But if I had even so much as tried to screw the bottlecap back on, it would have been a different story altogether.



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Old 02-17-2004, 08:15 AM
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Diesel can be stored in a tank, but it has to be vented, use one of these screw in caps that you can get for the tanks used in the bed of a pickup. Dont know where you would get one, I work in forestry, so they're pretty common here.
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Thanks everybody,

Glad I ask before I started filling up 55 gallon drums to store up to 5 years.

May be I could come up with some sort of rotation process, I think my idea is a no win.

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I'd have to agree with Chuck and Tazz, I don't think it's worth the trouble to try and stockpile a gasoline or diesel supply. It's my belief that before things get that out of hand, we will be using alternate sources of fuel to power our cars and heat our homes and that driving a gasoline car will become a fun thing to do on a Sunday afternoon. They (gasoline/diesel powered vehicles) will become "collectable" and as such a fun and popular hobby. Just my opinion of course.

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P.S. I'm glad MY neighbors don't have any barrels of "non-volatile" fuel in their back yards....my fire insurance would go through the roof.
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