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Old 11-11-2008, 09:22 AM
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What would one have to expect to pay for a relatively high quality paint job, two stage, base and clear with some minimal amount of body repair (no rust removal, just smoothing out the panels,etc)

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Old 11-11-2008, 04:31 PM
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Someplace between "A Lot of $100's" and "A Whole Bunch of $1000's".

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That's a loaded question. Every car is different. What You might think is a little body work, maybe more work than u think. To go from an average Street rod nice paint job to a high quality job, requires a significant amount more time and money. I have been painting for ~ 25 years and have yet to see a "perfect paint job", nice ones but not perfect. I would normally be looking in the 10 to 12K for an average job and upwards of 20k for a "high quality job". I assume you were looking at complete paint? Underside floors, jambs, trunk and engine compartments, firewall, frame and chassis components, etc............. Just to maney variables to nail down a price, but lets say 10-20k. Chris
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Appreciate the response. My interest is the typical cost for a frame off paint job where the parts are painted individually with a base/clear and all the parts were polished. Your answers seem to jive with what I had gotten from some local painters, that show quality jobs start in the teens and go easily into the twenties. But, that's about it. Thanks

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This question is seemingly as common as it is complex.

I've just set up the framework of a new wiki article on this: How much does body work cost?. Anyone can edit it.

These two other related articles are also coming along nicely: Cheapo paint job, and First paint job.
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Had a bud who paid a custom shop (not a wreck repair shop) to paint his 34 Plymouth in pieces. They painted it candy apple red with HOK materials. The cost was knocking on the door of $20K. It was one of the most stunning and perfect paint jobs I have seen.

Added: he and a friend did all the body fitting and body work, and initial primer.

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This same Question was just ask in one of the more popular Hot Rod magazine's a couple of issues ago. There they said the Average paint job was between 10 and $15,000.00, while the high end ones range between 30 and $45,000.00, and that was without material's.
We are restoring a 1933 Ford and did all the work our sleeve's, that ment all the panel replacements, body work, new latches and all. While I don't claim to be any better then anyone else, we did manage to get the body very straight and it is now in good enough condition to proudly were it's primer coat with honor, while we go ahead and fit the body to the frame, conned the steering, Aline the fender, hood and front grill work. Once all this work is done, we will go back over the body, but only to repair any damage done in the process and a few final sandings. The whole process was recorded, both for man hours taken and dollars spent. So far we have roughly 600 hours in the body and are still counting. This total includes all phases of work, from tare down, soda blasting the body, panel repair and replacement, primering, sanding, shaping and so on. It took us about 7-8 primer then sand sessions to get the body looking straight and smooth, some bodies would take less many would take more. The materials needed for a job like this are roughly 7/$8,500.00, this would include the primer, patch panels, filler, sealer, paint and sanding and smoothing products. To paint, you have to use some sort of fresh air supply, all of which will add an additional 2-$3,500.00 to the projects. On top of that, there is and primer gun($175.00), the main paint gun (&500.00) and the touch-up gun ($145.00), there is also a good compressor, the air filter/water filter unit ($650.00) , paint shaker ($250.00) and a host of other hidden cost. The bright side is while you have to have the right tools to do the job, you will have them for future projects.
Our paint job is on the higher side of the norm, with about $8K invested in paint and panels, the hours would easily bring that total to over $40,000.00 !! And that is only at $50/hour, the national average is $80, which would bring our paint job to well over $50,000.00. You also have to remember, we are not finished, I estimate the needed hours to complete the project at roughly an additional 250 man hours. That is to ready, paint, and post paint treatment, this will bring our paint job total to between 60 and 85K dollars. I'll admit, this project isn't typical...but is reminiscent of what it take to complete a car that will compete on the show car circuit.
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Someplace between "A Lot of $100's" and "A Whole Bunch of $1000's".

Aaron
Man that is sooooo true
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Today I was just trying to find a cousin and Uncle of mine that my dad stated Pagosa Springs Co. was their last known phone No. His name is Ron Spate, and I believe that my cousins name is the same. The No. that my dad gave me was 970-264-5136, that is now a fax. Ron Sr should be in his late 70s and Ron Jr in his late 50s. They lived in San Bruno Ca, South of San Francisco, before Ron and Bev divorced in the late 60s and moving to Co.
And they are right about your paint question, that is a loaded question. Paint jobs range in many dollar amounts depending on the labor to prep the surface and what type, quality, and brand of paint that you wish to use. I would find a college close that has a paint and body shop and see if they will do your ride, you buying the material. We did that for allot of cars where I took body and fender, just to learn. The teacher never let anything wrong occur on any of the projects.

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going off what yknot had to say we just had a 54 ford come in that that guy wanted redone and it looked to be in really good shape. just taking our first look at it our first number came to 30k. the body wasnt bad and really wasnt much rust. but he wanted frame off and everything stripped all the way down. we started punching numbers and it was going to end up being more ( he wanted motor and new front end too). in today world its hard to do them "cheap" as in price. when doing classics my wage is 47.50 and hour. i need to eat and pay bills too. so its hard to cut my pay but still give show quality in return. there is ALOT of time that goes into doing this things, the body may be strait and only a little rust but its alot of little things that take alot of time. door latches, untold number of alinement hours, rusted bolts, fixing where someone elce has fixed, takeing parts and waiting for parts if need blasted, time waiting on parts to come in, the time doing body work and if you own a shop that spot is tied up for longer then normal jobs witch are making money. its really hard to say anymore.
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Gentlemen

These are some great responses. The particular vehicle is a ford pickup. Three color metalic paint job, including one pearl (three stage) color. Hood has louvers to complicate life. Everything is smooth, including running boards. Bed floor is metal and to be painted and polished. Does that help with the estimate.

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Without seeing the vehicle close up and personal, NO ONE can give you any type of estimate that is worth what it is written on.

You need to find some people (more than one, if possible)that you are interested in having do the work. Take the vehicle to them and see what they tell you.

Every vehicle is different. Every area is different. Every ARTIST is different. It is not like shopping for a lawn mower.

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No not really. Aaron is correct, until you put your own eyeballs on the vehicle ur just taking a guess. When I give an estimate on a Street Rod that is all it is, an estimate. It's not like fixing a fender on a 2 year old car for insurance co. There are just too many unknowns.

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Thanks for the response. I know that I am asking an impossible question from the standpoint of an accurate estimate. I guess I am just looking for something that says "expect $20k, or expect $30k or so". Out of curiousity, what's the most expensive paint job you have done or heard of.

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Wow. I guess its been so long since I had to worry about paint that I didnt realize how much my buddy's got paid for a full paint.

Really make me appreciate that I 'think' I can do mine. I'll admit though....it'll be my first tri-coat.

Jon, I'll read your article. Are these prices indicative of prices found all over? I would assume that the custom shops would charge a premium price compared to a R&R shop...but my nieve side takes over....I never dreamed a full paint was this price.

Oh...and I'm not cutting anyone that does this for a living. I can appreciate the work and attention to detail you guys go through. I'm happy that folks get paid what they're worth.

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